Might be related to this other post: https://lemmy.ca/post/24478184

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Firstly, this post is not to celebrate somebody losing their job, nor to poke fun at a company struggling in today’s market.

However, it might go some way to explaining why Portainer are tightening up the free Business plan from 5 to 3 nodes

https://x.com/theseanodell/status/1809328238097056035

Sean O’Dell

My time at Portainer came to an end in May due to restructuring/layoffs. I am proud of the work the team and I put in. Being the Head of Marketing is challenging but I am thankful for the personal growth and all that we accomplished. Monday starts the search for my next role!

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Or Dockge

Portainer is just training wheels for people that haven’t learned to manage their own containers yet.

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Why are you here if you’re just going to insult hobbyists in the community dedicated to hobbyists.

This isn’t the kind of vibe /c/selfhosted needs

This is going to blow your mind but it’s a joke, and not even a mean spirited one. We all started with training wheels, nothing wrong with that.

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I also saw a post about a portainer alternative, anyone know others?

Monitor (docs.monitor.mogh.tech) (from the other site)

  • “core API and periphery agent are written in Rust”
  • Nice UI & lots of features
  • I wish it had a different name because “Monitor” is very hard to search with

DockGe from the other post

  • Looks like it’s popular, from the other post

  • Features are more limited, no environment variables yet I don’t think

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There’s also Yacht.

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Used it for a bit but I didn’t like how you have to deploy things from templates which are basically compose files that don’t look like compose files.

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They’re 1-1 compose files.

The app just saves them as compose files and then runs docker compose in the backend.

it is EXTREMELY barebones

I put the sample template (https://yacht.sh/docs/Templates/Templates/) into a file named docker-compose.yml and Docker said the syntax was invalid. Are you saying I can give Yacht a compose file and it’s cool with it?

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Ah, no not the template files for the individual containers, but the project descriptors are just compose files.

I started with Yacht and moved to Portainer. Yacht’s ui was just too heavy and unresponsive for me. I got logged out of sessions without it actually telling me almost every time I used Yacht. I would have to log out and in again just to use it (a process that often freezed up as well for reasons I cannot comprehend). I finally had enough and switched to Portainer; not a single complaint since.

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Yacht is pretty much unmaintained.

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The thing about dockge is that it’s easy to go to and from using it. It can scan existing folders for compose files, and because it uses compose files itself, you could just as easily start containers made by dockge without dockge even running.

Of course, this means it lacks some of the fancier features of something like portainer, but I personally enjoy the simplicity

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Another risk with Monitor, which may get better with time. Is that FOSS rust projects have a tendency to slow down or even stall due to the time cost of writing features, and the very small dev community available to pick up slack when original creators/maintainers drop off, burn out, or get too busy with life.

To be clear: I have nothing against rust. It’s a fantastic language filling in a crucial gap that’s existed for decades. However, it’s I’ll suited for app development, that’s just not it’s strength.

I’ve been using dokemon https://github.com/productiveops/dokemon

It works well enough.

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Dokemon and monitor seem to be the best alternatives in this thread so far.

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I’ve heard of dockge as a lightweight alternative to portainer.

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There are some things that are easier to see and check in Portainer, but for pure compose handling (up, down, logs) dockge works really well.

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I rolled out Dockge the other week, and it’s solid. It can handle environment variables, but lacks other portainer features like controlling networks, volumes, building images, etc.

One big plus is that Dockge works really well with the dockcheck.sh script for updates, where as Portainer breaks that script.

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I have never wanted or needed portainer and I see no reason to change

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I could see using it in an environment with lots of docker hosts and a team to maintain it all. Just having compose files would get unwieldy when you’ve got 100 servers and a team of devops and devs all poking around in things.

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