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At federal election time all parties get a list of all voters, and their contact information from Elections Canada. I assume it’s true in Ontario as well.

You’re seeing messages from the Conservatives because they’re reasonably well organized and they’re doing a decent job at fundraising.

The other parties could do it as well, but aren’t. I assume it’s because they don’t have a decent election committee/budget, but I have no evidence of that.


Why bother?

  • If he’d said it front of the media, it would have been a headline.
  • The two stories I’ve seen about this bury the hot mic part after the national sovereignty bit.
  • There isn’t any level of protection that he’d get by saying it to a room of millionaires and billionaires instead of the media.
  • Googling for “hot mic accident” shows a surprising number of results.

Without evidence to the contrary, Occam’s razor (and a backhand with Hanlon’s razor) both suggest it was a goof by the sound tech rather than unnecessary theatrics.


“Mr. Trump has it in mind that the easiest way to do it is absorbing our country and it is a real thing. In my conversations with him on…,” Trudeau said, before the microphone cut out.

After the opening address, media were ushered out of the room, when a microphone that was left on picked up on what was only meant to be heard behind closed doors.

This is wild:

  1. Trudeau didn’t want to say that in front of the media (even though at least one of the people in the room was going to leak it after).

  2. We’re still having hot mic accidents.


Internal Trade Minister Anita Anand was asked during a news conference on Wednesday if “interprovincial trade barriers [could] be dealt with, wiped away in 30 days?”

“The short answer to your question is yes,” she responded.

We’re down to 25 days. Is the answer still yes?

Trolling aside, that sounds like an excellent goal. I’ve seen news articles about Canada’s internal trade barriers since the 1980s, but this is the first time I’ve seen anything approaching movement on the issue.


If I’m reading that right, all three groups traveled from the US to the Canadian side.


Ugh. Go after the proceeds by hitting money laundering. Like BC said we need to:

  • Unexplained Wealth Orders could add a valuable new anti-money laundering tool. Civil forfeiture is already used much more readily than criminal prosecution but still requires a link to criminal activity, which may be hard to establish, especially where international transfers are involved. Unexplained Wealth Orders could be used to confiscate property where there is no evident legitimate source of funds, providing another civil process tool that does not rely on criminal prosecution or evidence of a crime.

  • Core federal anti-money laundering legislation and practice are in urgent need of reform. Improvements should be made by the federal government to the ability of FINTRAC to collect and analyze reports of suspicious transactions from all those involved in real estate, to provide information to those who can and will use it, including regulators, to provide feedback to reporting entities and to collect and report statistically on the full range of AML activities and their effectiveness

etc


Ottawa also lacks the authority to impose cheap daycare and zoning improvements for cities. But they offered incentives, and the jurisdictions fell into line.


Yea, we don’t know what happened in the phone call.

True, but it’s weird that Mexico got the exact same deal.

The important part is that all of us don’t forget what happened.

You’re totally right. We need to remove barriers to interprovincial trade and start looking for other trading partners. I hear the EU doesn’t buy much of our aluminum. Maybe it’s time for the feds to encourage that kind of export.


I feel like Trump is grandstanding.

He shot his mouth off, Canada did some stuff (mostly in the fall fiscal update), he looked tough for his base, but relented at the 11th hour.

That last minute save means Trump doesn’t have to deal with the sustained economic impact of tariffs. He got to stir the pot and see how much he can get away with.

Coincidentally, Mexico got the exact same deal. We’re gonna go through the same song and dance next month.

But it’s a good wakeup call for US allies: it’s time to start looking for other markets and building trade deals with less volatile partners.



Opinion: How are we so befuddled at U.S. tariffs, when it’s all been so obvious?
Really interesting op-ed given that Trump was complaining US banks aren't allowed in Canada: > President Donald Trump’s chief economist, Stephen Miran, a Harvard-trained PhD and hedge fund strategist nominated to chair the President’s Council of Economic Advisers, wrote in November “A User’s Guide to Restructuring the Global Trading System.” ... > He points to the 2018-19 tariffs the first Trump administration imposed on China (and the Biden administration retained) as proof his theory has merit and that it “should inform analysis of future trade conflicts.” In that case the Chinese currency fell, the U.S. dollar strengthened, and the trade deficit remained. But the important thing is that inflation was manageable, China got the message, and new revenue was raised for the U.S. Treasury, according to Mr. Miran. > > We will need to come to terms with the fact that the U.S. will assess its relationship with us based on a criteria matrix that includes, as Mr. Miran suggests, if Canada “opens its markets to U.S. firms in the same way America opens its markets to foreign firms operating stateside.” > > This has implications for Canadian agricultural supply management, the telecom sector, restrictions on investments, service barriers to online streaming and barriers to digital trade such as the digital service tax. Original: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-how-are-we-so-befuddled-at-us-tariffs-when-its-all-been-so-obvious/
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That is epic Canadiana. Props for including Cyril Sneer in the background.


Relevant, but not cancon. You’re on lemmynsfw, so maybe you could find something on the Canadian owned PornHub?


We allow the jailbreakers to distribute their hacks and even sell them.

I understand that. The target market for those jailbreaks is outside Canada, so distribution of our product would be limited by foreign laws. Foreign buyers would be dissuaded by stuff like the DMCA.

It works for Canadians, but it wouldn’t really affect anyone outside Canada. Given the size of our market, it would have a minimal effect on the sellers of locked products.

even if it’s just for John Deer farm equipment it’s a huge boon to consumers.

Canadian farmers who aren’t part of supply management schemes are in rough shape. As much as it might help them, they aren’t a large market, and (if John Deer cares) the sellers will probably use other monopolistic practices to discourage it.

Sure, Apple and Google will try to make this impossible…

Android app builders regularly complain that their apps are heavily pirated by alternate app stores in China. As far as I can tell, that hasn’t really changed Google policy. If Google is willing to ignore an app market the size of China, I don’t think there will be any real effect from Canada doing the same.

I like the idea behind the proposal, but unless it hurts US corporations, it seems like a small tweak to help Canadian consumers, rather than meaningful retaliation in a trade war.






I was really pleasantly surprised to hear him and the journalists switch from English to French and back to English seamlessly and without drama.

That is (happily) common in Canadian politics. Bilingual politicians are happy to reach a larger audience, just as journalists prefer to have quotes in their target language.

If Trump catalyzes good things in Canada, then Trump will have done something good in his life, against all odds.

Definitely. It’s incumbent on us to make that happen, though. Politicians haven’t prioritized it for the last fifty years - they’ll only do it if they receive pressure.


I really like the idea of opting out of IP agreements, but it’s unclear how effective it would be. AFAIU jail breaks are illegal in the US thanks to the DMCA - if Canada produces the kits, it’s still a risk to American farmers/Tesla owners to use them.

And:

But you know what Canada could make? A Canadian App Store. That’s a store that Canadian software authors could use to sell Canadian apps to Canadian customers, charging, say, the standard payment processing fee of 5% rather than Apple’s 30%. Canada could make app stores for the Android, Playstation and Xbox, too.

This requires cooperation from the platforms we’re attacking. The EU had the clout to force Apple to open their platform, but would Canada? Would a bellicose US allow one of their most profitable and iconic companies to do that? Given a choice, I suspect Apple would happily make the “alternate app store” experience so user unfriendly that most users would avoid it.

Android has allowed side loading forever, and has a bunch of non-Google app stores, but they have only gained traction in limited circles.

It’s a fun idea, and it’d be interesting to see how it works out, but I’m not sure it would have a significant impact.


Yeah. I’m not clear what the tariffs are on. But I guess we’ll find out.


It’s “funny” because people have been decrying these barriers since the 1990s. It’d be amazing if we actually saw progress, but I’m not optimistic.


We’ll see. I think this is the opening salvo in the USMCA negotiations, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it continued until that was renegotiated.

Or it could end next week. 🤷‍♂️


Trump threats are inspiring Canada to tackle trade war from within
Now that we're talking trade, it works be a good time to address Canada's internal trade barriers: > “Let’s sit down and come up with a list, because everyone wants to protect something – no matter if it’s the dairy cow in Newfoundland, or the wine in B.C., or ourselves – everyone’s guilty,” he added. > > Consumers are confronted by these roadblocks every day. A craft brewery in Quebec can’t sell its beer directly to a nearby restaurant in Ottawa. An engineer in New Brunswick has to get licensed in neighbouring Nova Scotia before practising there. A truck driver in British Columbia can only drive certain truck configurations at night but must do so during the day in Alberta – leaving a narrower time frame to make an interprovincial trek. > > Taken together, these barriers are constraining Canada’s economic potential. Research shows that tearing them down would give the economy a sizable boost – perhaps enough to offset the hit from steep U.S. tariffs. Original https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-trump-threats-are-inspiring-canada-to-tackle-trade-war-from-within/
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I feel like some cancon would have been a better choice for this sentiment. What is your Canadian choice for this meme?
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Mexico vows retaliation to Trump tariffs without detailing targets
Not directly Canadian news, but given Saturday's events, it's relevant: > Mexico has been preparing possible retaliatory tariffs on imports from the U.S., ranging from 5% to 20%, on pork, cheese, fresh produce, manufactured steel and aluminum, according to sources familiar with the matter. The auto industry would initially be exempt, they said.
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François Legault sez…
I'm waiting for Trudeau's twice delayed press conference. According to **Legault**, Canada is putting 25% tariffs on *some* US imports. Is that legit? Did Legault just scoop Trudeau? I guess we'll find out soonish.
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Ottawa should enforce the law limiting foreign ownership of newspapers

Our limit on foreign ownership was imposed in the 1960s after US chains threatened to take over newspapers here. A 1999 study of coverage in Canadian-owned US newspapers of the Québec independence referendum noted that most countries prohibited or limited foreign media ownership “at least partly out of fear that foreign owners would use those outlets to manipulate public opinion in times of national crisis.” It indeed found evidence that foreign ownership “influences newspaper coverage and editorial commentary about key political issues in the parent company’s home country.”


That’s true for most Canadians: they receive more from the rebate than they pay in the tax.


Can’t you just pay it ahead of time?

That would make sense. I don’t believe that’s how it was implemented.


I think the most reasonable complaint against direct carbon pricing is that people who are living in poverty can’t afford to wait for the next rebate to come in.

It sounds like Carney is just proposing incentives (which seems kinda ineffective for consumers), which wouldn’t have that drawback.


Carney promises to scrap carbon pricing if he becomes Prime Minister
As someone who supports the carbon rebate and thinks it's a good policy, I have to admit that Carney is right. Trudeau screwed up the implementation, and now *a policy that gives most Canadians more money than they pay* is a third rail. Replacing the tax with something more acceptable, and equally effective seems like a good way forward. Original: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-mark-carney-consumer-carbon-tax-liberal-leadership-race/
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Canadian governments have been able to pass significant legislation since repatriation. We’re fine.

Centralizing power with the PMO just means the prime minister can make more partisan changes by fiat. We usually go to the polls every four years, so that’s a long time to wait for accountability.

And of course, there’s the problem that the PMO is responsible for so many appointments that they don’t appoint judges in a timely manner:

“It is imperative for the Prime Minister’s Office to give this issue the importance it deserves and for appointments to be made in a timely manner …The government’s inertia regarding vacancies and the absence of satisfactory explanations for these delays are disconcerting.”

“In some cases it may be that all relevant vacancies must be filled, as where serious crimes are not prosecuted in a timely way such that victims, the public and accused are denied justice,” Brown said.


The prime minister has been acquiring more power for decades. Canada doesn’t function better now than it did, it just functions differently.

In doing so, the rest of Parliament and the government is weakened. It becomes harder to limit what the prime minister can do.


Eventually, in 1955, one province — Manitoba — decided to experiment, and handed over the redistricting process to an independent commission. Its members were the province’s chief justice, its chief electoral officer, and the University of Manitoba president. The new policy became popular, and within a decade, it was backed by both major national parties, and signed into law.

The trick is to appoint nonpartisan commissioners…



Such a weird refusal.

I initially thought there was something weird he didn’t want to tell the RCMP, but he held top secret clearance as a minister, so I guess he’s just being obstinant.


Attack dog is an unofficial role in political parties:

An “attack dog” in politics is a person, usually a politician or a political operative, who is designated to aggressively challenge and criticize the opposition.

They are often tasked with the responsibility of delivering negative messages or criticisms that a candidate or party leader may not want to deliver personally, in order to maintain a more positive public image.

He has done this in the past and been effective at it. His successful (unjustified) criticism of the Liberals carbon tax implementation is a great example of that: he managed to frame public perception of the rebate, despite heaps of evidence to the contrary.

Shitting on Poilievre is fine and fun, but it ignores the reality that his party has successfully framed a number of debates in the past. Assuming Carney wins the Liberal leadership, it’s a significant obstacle to him winning the next federal election.


His actions are the stuff we need to examine and prosecute.

Any family and personal connections to Nazism has become inarguably relevant.

Sure. They’re worth talking about. But the bit that matters are his words and deeds. Like you said, he did sieg heil, and he has been doing weird shit with Twitter’s algorithm. He probably has more creepy stuff going on that I’m not aware of.


The official opposition is a part of the government.

From the House of Commons website:

  • The leader of the party having the support of the majority of the Members of the House of Commons is asked by the Governor General to form a government and becomes the Prime Minister;
  • The party, or parties, opposed to the government is called the opposition (the largest of these parties is referred to as the “official” opposition);

Yeah. Sorry. I know it’s nitpicky, but there’s a lot of almost true stuff bouncing around Reddit right now. I want Lemmy to be better than that. So I’m being picky.



When referring to MPs, “in government” refers to being part of the governing party. He is a career politician, landlord, and attack dog, but the Canadian electorate has only chosen his party to lead three times. He has spent a majority of his career yelling from the sidelines.


Elon Musk’s Canadian connection
I didn't realize [Elon had Canadian grandparents](https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-apartheid-south-africa): > Musk’s maternal grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, moved from Canada to South Africa in 1950 because he liked the newly elected apartheid government. > > In the 1930s, Haldeman was the Canadian leader of a fringe political movement originating in the US, Technocracy Incorporated, that advocated abolishing democracy in favor of government by elite technicians but which took on overtones of fascism with its uniforms and salutes. > > The Canadian government banned Technocracy Incorporated during the second world war as a threat to the country’s security in part for its opposition to fighting Hitler. Haldeman was charged with publishing documents opposing the war and sent to prison for two months. I don't like associating people with the sins of their ancestors, but Technocracy Incorporated sounds too silly to ignore.
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Doug Ford set to call snap election next week, sending Ontario voters to the polls Feb. 27
> Mr. Ford won a majority of the Ontario Legislature’s seats for the second time in June, 2022, just 2½ years ago. The next election date under provincial legislation is currently fixed for June, 2026. ... > Ms. Stiles, citing the Premier’s own recent warning that Mr. Trump’s tariffs could cost Ontario half a million jobs, said Mr. Ford was putting party before province. > > “He can either be the Premier or run for Premier,” the NDP Leader said in a statement. “He needs to decide what’s more important: his job or 500,000 jobs.” From: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ontario-voters-to-head-to-the-polls-feb-27-source/
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N.B. mystery brain disease patients welcome new investigation as ‘good first step’
Remember when only fifty people suffered from the mystery condition? Shockingly, ignoring it has not made it go away. > She is one of nearly 400 New Brunswick residents who suffer from what the province calls a “neurological syndrome of unknown cause” – a mystery brain disease that seems to mostly affect people living in the Acadian Peninsula and Moncton areas. Her fiancé, Sarah Nesbitt, is also afflicted. Original: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-nb-mystery-brain-disease-patients-welcome-new-investigation-as-good/
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Judge agrees to expedite legal challenge of Trudeau’s move to prorogue Parliament
As much as I agree with these two contrarians, I believe Trudeau was within his rights to prorogue. The proroguation is clearly *just* to run the Liberal leadership race, but sadly the PM is allowed to do that. > [David MacKinnon and Aris Lavranos] argued Trudeau’s decision effectively denies Parliament, without reasonable justification, the ability to carry out its constitutional functions as a legislature. > > In particular, the application said, prorogation prevents Parliament from dealing “quickly and decisively” with especially pressing issues, including the effects of Trump’s threatened tariffs. > > They suggest the true intention of prorogation was to stymie efforts of opposition parties to bring a motion of non-confidence in the Liberal government. Original: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-judge-agrees-to-expedite-legal-challenge-of-trudeaus-move-to-prorogue/
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People who want to be in charge are making their case to very softball questioners
It seems like our leaders don't think they need to answer questions: > Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was the trendsetter here, making the rounds on non-political and non-Canadian podcasts over the past year ... the questions he faced were less hard-nosed than those from Parliament Hill reporters ... > Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre sitting down with Jordan Peterson for a very long talk on Mr. Peterson’s [podcast] ... An interview so friendly it’s annoying to the subject is an amazing thing to pull off, but this is the moment we’re in. ... > And now this week, you have Mark Carney ... on The Daily Show. Host Jon Stewart began the interview by crediting Mr. Carney with steering Canada through the 2008 recession without lasting scars, and that was an accurate amuse-bouche for the tone of the whole thing. The shitty part is that voters seem cool with it. We don't care that our leaders skip hard questions and go on lame podcasts. We're okay to forego fact checking and give them a pass. Original link: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/opinion/article-people-who-want-to-be-in-charge-are-making-their-case-to-very-softball/
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Voters are unlikely to forgive the Liberals
The oped is a bit hyperbolic, but it gets the facts and the risks right: > Mr. Trudeau’s initial moves were encouraging. He organized a common front with the premiers and met with Mr. Trump in person at Mar-a-Lago. > > But then, as he so often does, the Prime Minister lost his focus. ... > When Ms. Freeland retaliated by resigning and releasing that excoriating letter, Mr. Trudeau reacted by disappearing on a three-week vacation. Pondering his own future was clearly far more important to him than the one thing that truly mattered: the tariff threat. ... > Two polls this week showed no change in the Liberals’ deep unpopularity. The Conservatives are almost certain to form a large majority government after the election. By late May, we should finally have in place a prime minister and a cabinet with a mandate to speak for Canada. Heaven only knows what state the economy and Canada-U.S. relations will be in by then Original link: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-voters-are-unlikely-to-forgive-the-liberals/
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Trudeau to resign as prime minister after Liberal leadership race
> Trudeau also said he asked Gov. Gen. Mary Simon to prorogue Parliament until March 24, and she granted the request.
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Why you’re miserable: We’ve grown too comfortable on the booming riches of ages past
Briefly describes why: > as a rule, the older you are in Canada, the more likely your income is higher than the previous generation’s at that age; and the younger you are, the more likely your income is lower than the previous generation’s at that age. Therefore, it’s just as reasonable for a young Canadian today to believe they’ll end up poorer than their parents’ generation as it is for their parents to believe they’re entitled to live better than their predecessors did Which leads to > young Canadians, are gloomier than ever, with so many feeling so down about their economic future that they’re turning against democracy. Surveys reveal that increasingly, young people are showing greater openness to authoritarian leaders who threaten to break a system they already see as failing them. This echoes research in many developed democracies, revealing a growing radicalism and anti-system sentiment among young voters. Original: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-why-youre-miserable-weve-grown-too-comfortable-on-the-booming-riches/
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CFIA’s reliance on third-party audits is killing people
> “Most consumers are probably of the opinion that the CFIA is managing food safety among manufacturers in Canada – and they’re not, because of the lack of resources. The CFIA is not delivering on a proper food-safety mandate.” oopsie doopsie > a facility in Pickering, Ont., linked to a deadly listeria outbreak this summer was deemed a lower priority for inspections. As a result, the site had not been visited by a CFIA inspector in the five years leading up to the outbreak. It was only after the outbreak that the CFIA says it discovered the plant had not been conducting testing for listeria in finished products or on food contact surfaces. > > Using genome sequencing, public-health officials determined that the listeria strain involved in the outbreak sickened 20 people as far back as August, 2023. Three people died. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ /unjerk Fuck this shit. We've underfunded our institutions, privatized our regulators, and made producers responsible for their own compliance. I'd say that we deserve what we get, but the people who got sick and died from this shit *clearly didn't.*
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Canada needs more than drones, helicopters to ease cross-border drug crime concerns
Money laundering has been an [embarrassing part of the Canadian economy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_washing) for decades, and [contributed to the Vancouver housing bubble](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cullen_Commission) (at least). Weirdly, we seem to be making [money laundering one of our exports](https://www.icij.org/investigations/fincen-files/td-bank-hit-with-3b-penalty-in-u-s-money-laundering-settlement/). Here's a quote: > Canada’s role in the international narcotics trade has been a subject of intense domestic scrutiny over the past decade. In 2022, the Cullen Commission warned about the “enormous volume of illicit funds” being filtered through the British Columbia economy, an amount estimated in the billions of dollars. Yet money laundering charges are rare, the commission found, because “police conducting investigations into profit-oriented criminal activity, such as drug dealing, are not investigating these offences.” Original link: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-canada-border-trump-drug-crime/