for some background, I’m on latest stable Kubuntu. able to use Microsoft Office via a KVM+Winapps setup currently. it mostly works but there are a few kinks like the display frame getting fucked up when going full screen or windowed, drag and drop being hit or miss and whatnot…
i did read up on Office 2019 being installable using Wine, but wasn’t able to find any methods to activate it. MAS isn’t really a thing on wine since we don’t have Powershell I believe. any ideas?
Libreoffice is the most atrociously structured piece of software I ever encountered. not only is the UI absolutely dated and god awful trash, it can fuck up microsoft office formatted documents. i possess a special hate for it since it decided to crap out on me when I REALLY positively needed it.
it can fuck up microsoft office formatted documents
everything can.
That is because Microsoft doesn’t follow the 1000 page docx standards they wrote themselves.
And I will defend the decent UI against modern words ribbon-trash to my death.
libreoffice ui can certainly be improved a lot, but microsoft office is definitely worse.
100% can confirm. It always takes me ages to find what i need in the ribbon interface. Especially the things that aren’t visible all the time. First time I was asked to print something, I really struggled with that. And it used to be File->Print. And I have no interest in finding out if they made it easier or worse to do things like conditional formatting or alternating row colors in tables.
Regarding the issues with formatting: It’s Microsoft’s fault. They’re doing this deliberately to get rid of competition. And they’ll ensure it stays that way in the future.
There is one exception, however: You need to install the correct fonts. If you don’t have the specified font available, a document will look differently and things might get misplaced, because your characters might now be wider or narrower.
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Libreoffice is the most atrociously structured piece of software I ever encountered. not only is the UI absolutely dated and god awful trash, it can fuck up microsoft office formatted documents. i possess a special hate for it since it decided to crap out on me when I REALLY positively needed it.
don’t know about collabora, will look into it
The problem there is not with LibreOffice, but with Microsoft Office. They do not implement the format standard correctly.
Not that it eliminated your problem, but it’s important to understand who the real culprit is and why.
I think it’s also important to mention, that they wrote the standard themselves (after being forced to)
If you want a piece of software that keeps closer to microsoft’s shitty file types I’d take a look at onlyoffice
If you dislike the UI, you can turn on an MS Office-like ribbon design in the settings
As far as I know it uses libreoffice at its core
everything can.
That is because Microsoft doesn’t follow the 1000 page docx standards they wrote themselves.
And I will defend the decent UI against modern words ribbon-trash to my death.
libreoffice ui can certainly be improved a lot, but microsoft office is definitely worse.
Modern? The ribbon is 17 years old.
Everything post 9/11 is modern to some people…
100% can confirm. It always takes me ages to find what i need in the ribbon interface. Especially the things that aren’t visible all the time. First time I was asked to print something, I really struggled with that. And it used to be File->Print. And I have no interest in finding out if they made it easier or worse to do things like conditional formatting or alternating row colors in tables.
Regarding the issues with formatting: It’s Microsoft’s fault. They’re doing this deliberately to get rid of competition. And they’ll ensure it stays that way in the future.
There is one exception, however: You need to install the correct fonts. If you don’t have the specified font available, a document will look differently and things might get misplaced, because your characters might now be wider or narrower.