Montreal police join a long list of police forces around the world investigating an Ontario man accused of selling a lethal substance online to those at risk of self-harm.
That is pretty much how most legal regimes operate, yes. Then there are the ones that outright criminalize suicide.
Edit: as for why, it’s been shown in some studies that making access to methods difficult does reduce suicide. Cynically, maybe doing that keeps a workforce at better strength.
This isn’t exactly that though. While some places do criminalize attempts (ex. Fines if caught, punishments for surviving family), this is closer to criminalizing the act of assisting a suicide.
Which makes sense. If someone is having a mental health crisis and is on a bridge, and you egg them on, that would be punished.
Profiting from that process is even worse, it incentivizes trying to find people that could otherwise get support and instead profiting off their death.
Maybe there is some truth to the cynical take, but it doesn’t make much sense to me. Even if it was about maximizing worker output, a depressed suicidal worker is not going to be that productive.
Yes we need better mental health and social supports and yes we also need laws like this to prevent people from taking advantage of vulnerable people.
If serving people (and the wider society) were the priority among past and current legislators, we’d be doing what we can across the board to prevent people from falling into suicidal depression, instead of just trapping them in lives they feel are unbearable. It absolutely is about keeping the numbers of “workers” up, even if some are too depressed to work.
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That is pretty much how most legal regimes operate, yes. Then there are the ones that outright criminalize suicide.
Edit: as for why, it’s been shown in some studies that making access to methods difficult does reduce suicide. Cynically, maybe doing that keeps a workforce at better strength.
This isn’t exactly that though. While some places do criminalize attempts (ex. Fines if caught, punishments for surviving family), this is closer to criminalizing the act of assisting a suicide.
Which makes sense. If someone is having a mental health crisis and is on a bridge, and you egg them on, that would be punished.
There was this other case a few years ago: https://globalnews.ca/news/3645988/suicide-text-trial-sentencing/
Profiting from that process is even worse, it incentivizes trying to find people that could otherwise get support and instead profiting off their death.
Maybe there is some truth to the cynical take, but it doesn’t make much sense to me. Even if it was about maximizing worker output, a depressed suicidal worker is not going to be that productive.
Yes we need better mental health and social supports and yes we also need laws like this to prevent people from taking advantage of vulnerable people.
If serving people (and the wider society) were the priority among past and current legislators, we’d be doing what we can across the board to prevent people from falling into suicidal depression, instead of just trapping them in lives they feel are unbearable. It absolutely is about keeping the numbers of “workers” up, even if some are too depressed to work.