who else thinks this is a good idea just wondering like i know their is parts on there for ai but they are just there its not been sorted properly for the megathread like i would love to see an AI section that is dedicated to the uncensored cracked or otherwise pirated AI stuff that would be pretty cool anyone else think this would be a good idea
ok so ill start by saying im so tired of the limits and boundaries and restrictions that have been placed on AI i could literally vomit so with that what i really mean is this i am looking for a platform kind of like poe.com where i can like train a bot to do what ever i want but without any form of policy shit that says hey this violates that bla bla bla it cant be a locally run model because my hardware is well crap lol so if possible on a server somewhere i am willing to even pay for it as long as it is completely uncensored and not break the bank level but more so to where i never again have to here “as an AI language model bla bla bla” i would prefer not to have to pay for it which is kinda why i was asking here but at this point i just dont care anymore as long as it will run similar to chatgpt in the sense that it can actually carry on a convo because i have found a few that were uncensored however they were so stupid that it was like going back to talking to siri or worse completely incapable of processing information at all you say hello and it says “42 is a good number yes” if you get what i mean if you need more info im more than happy to give it just let me know and i really appreciate the help
Runpod.io for example, you can just rent a GPU per the hour, train your own model and you’re good to go. I mean as long as you don’t upload criminal stuff (CSAM, etc.) you can train what you want on there.
Otherwise, training your own models will become easier by the day for home hardware. Look at fast it went for Image AI to be able to train your own model. You can do that with 12GB or even 8GB afaik now. I don’t think it’ll take very long until you can just let your 8GB card chuck away at some training data.
yea its a great service however unfortunately kinda strapped for cash to many bills at the moment so that would be why im on here asking but i really appreciate the advice thanks
Well you wont find any “pirated” GPU host… Its nothing that can really be pirated because we’re talking about hardware here.
Afaik google colab has enough VRAM to train and they don’t really at the source material you put in there (again, as long as you don’t trigger any CSAM filters or so)
CSAM filter??? whats that. an yea i figured that might be the case it being like digital hardware i guess i was more thinking like a pirated AI itself ya know because i have to admit i have never come across something that was software that couldnt be pirated until the whole AI thing then its like no one has the ability to say take ChatGPT and track it back to the source code and then duplicate it so it dont need openai anymore thats more what i was hoping to find or at least something of the same general nature like a truly reverse engineered gpt4 model that could be trained on your data and not controlled then use google colab or hell if they have something that monitors it then just get a private cloud and do it that way theirs a whole bunch out of Switzerland that just dont give a fuck what you put on the cloud server am i making sense or just talking gibberish because at this point i beginning to wonder lol
Yeah…you’re basically talking gibberish, sorry to tell you.
GPT4 doesn’t have to be reverse engineered, their software is nothing special and the open source programs available are more than competitive.
The part that can’t be pirated is the model itself. The training data that was formed into the model. That you can’t pirate or reverse engineer. You could steal it by hacking them and leaking it. But it would be incredible inefficient to run because OpenAI basically didn’t give a single fuck about efficiency and you need really fcking high end GPUs to run that.
So, to conclude.
ChatGPT “software” is absolutely boring and the alternatives out there are both plenty and in many cases superior. The interesting part is the model, which can’t be reverseengineered and even if, can’t be run on most hardware.
What you want is unrealistic and to be honest, completely unnecessary. We don’t want or need ChatGPT’s model. The open source models that already exist are in many cases better than GPT4; But they’re focused on specific tasks. Yes - there is no single model that can compete with GPT4 as is. But you can get yourself models for focused tasks and those “combined” definetly CAN compete with GPT4.
And the open source softwares like oobabooga are so much more capable than GPT4’s stupid minimalistic webui…
oh no need to apologize at all im cool im just glad to have it explained to be honest i have looked an looked and havent been able to get a straight answer hence why i got on here and was just like ok damnit i want to figure out if this is possible or if im just crazy so yea i get what your saying maybe what i was thinkin is kinda a stretch i just didnt know if i was possible is i really appreciate you explaining to me and after reading that yea honestly your right i have found some way better models here and there an some of roleplay platforms are really cool i guess i was just more curious than anything else lol i guess when you got a bunch of morons running a company that they stole then sold to the worst company to ever exist namely microsoft you really cant expect much beyond build a better one lol i will say i would very much like to see someone get anthropics claude model becuase i swear that bot could roleplay better than any bot i have seen if it just wasnt so damn ethical crazy lol but honestly at this point i have given up hope that it will happen or that it is really worth it lol but either way thanks you have been a huge help in assisting me in figuring out my gibberish lol especially since you really didnt have to so what ima probable do is just get me a digital gpu and build my own bot that suites what i need i did have one more question off the subject of chatgpt i heard something about someone was planning on building a operating system that was fully integrated with an AI LLM to where the model would be able to like directly control the entire OS now that would be cool i mean come on hello jarvis but i cant find any info on it now its just like the game engine someone was supposed to be making and then i didnt hear anything else is was like one trailer on both accounts and then like they dropped off the planet has there been any news or talk about it just wondering
First of all…bro…please use punctuation. This completely period-less wall of text was a nightmare to read lmao.
An OS controlled completely by AI sounds nightmarish to be honest. The amount of wrong outputs your typical LLMs generate would steer your PC into oblivion i tell you.
ASSISTED by AI is another thing though. There are already some tools out there that let you turn on some AI overlay that can help you figure out what you want to do. Even for the terminal.
But wouldn’t want that on my PC tbh. First of all, it would make the electricity bill for using your PC pure hell… imagine you have to fire up your GPU to 100% usage everytime you want to do something…
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What do you mean exactly? Like give me some examples 😀
ok so ill start by saying im so tired of the limits and boundaries and restrictions that have been placed on AI i could literally vomit so with that what i really mean is this i am looking for a platform kind of like poe.com where i can like train a bot to do what ever i want but without any form of policy shit that says hey this violates that bla bla bla it cant be a locally run model because my hardware is well crap lol so if possible on a server somewhere i am willing to even pay for it as long as it is completely uncensored and not break the bank level but more so to where i never again have to here “as an AI language model bla bla bla” i would prefer not to have to pay for it which is kinda why i was asking here but at this point i just dont care anymore as long as it will run similar to chatgpt in the sense that it can actually carry on a convo because i have found a few that were uncensored however they were so stupid that it was like going back to talking to siri or worse completely incapable of processing information at all you say hello and it says “42 is a good number yes” if you get what i mean if you need more info im more than happy to give it just let me know and i really appreciate the help
GPU renting sites don’t censor you at all.
Runpod.io for example, you can just rent a GPU per the hour, train your own model and you’re good to go. I mean as long as you don’t upload criminal stuff (CSAM, etc.) you can train what you want on there.
Otherwise, training your own models will become easier by the day for home hardware. Look at fast it went for Image AI to be able to train your own model. You can do that with 12GB or even 8GB afaik now. I don’t think it’ll take very long until you can just let your 8GB card chuck away at some training data.
yea its a great service however unfortunately kinda strapped for cash to many bills at the moment so that would be why im on here asking but i really appreciate the advice thanks
Well you wont find any “pirated” GPU host… Its nothing that can really be pirated because we’re talking about hardware here.
Afaik google colab has enough VRAM to train and they don’t really at the source material you put in there (again, as long as you don’t trigger any CSAM filters or so)
CSAM filter??? whats that. an yea i figured that might be the case it being like digital hardware i guess i was more thinking like a pirated AI itself ya know because i have to admit i have never come across something that was software that couldnt be pirated until the whole AI thing then its like no one has the ability to say take ChatGPT and track it back to the source code and then duplicate it so it dont need openai anymore thats more what i was hoping to find or at least something of the same general nature like a truly reverse engineered gpt4 model that could be trained on your data and not controlled then use google colab or hell if they have something that monitors it then just get a private cloud and do it that way theirs a whole bunch out of Switzerland that just dont give a fuck what you put on the cloud server am i making sense or just talking gibberish because at this point i beginning to wonder lol
Yeah…you’re basically talking gibberish, sorry to tell you.
GPT4 doesn’t have to be reverse engineered, their software is nothing special and the open source programs available are more than competitive.
The part that can’t be pirated is the model itself. The training data that was formed into the model. That you can’t pirate or reverse engineer. You could steal it by hacking them and leaking it. But it would be incredible inefficient to run because OpenAI basically didn’t give a single fuck about efficiency and you need really fcking high end GPUs to run that.
So, to conclude.
ChatGPT “software” is absolutely boring and the alternatives out there are both plenty and in many cases superior. The interesting part is the model, which can’t be reverseengineered and even if, can’t be run on most hardware.
What you want is unrealistic and to be honest, completely unnecessary. We don’t want or need ChatGPT’s model. The open source models that already exist are in many cases better than GPT4; But they’re focused on specific tasks. Yes - there is no single model that can compete with GPT4 as is. But you can get yourself models for focused tasks and those “combined” definetly CAN compete with GPT4.
And the open source softwares like oobabooga are so much more capable than GPT4’s stupid minimalistic webui…
PS: Also, CSAM = Child Sexual Abuse Material
oh no need to apologize at all im cool im just glad to have it explained to be honest i have looked an looked and havent been able to get a straight answer hence why i got on here and was just like ok damnit i want to figure out if this is possible or if im just crazy so yea i get what your saying maybe what i was thinkin is kinda a stretch i just didnt know if i was possible is i really appreciate you explaining to me and after reading that yea honestly your right i have found some way better models here and there an some of roleplay platforms are really cool i guess i was just more curious than anything else lol i guess when you got a bunch of morons running a company that they stole then sold to the worst company to ever exist namely microsoft you really cant expect much beyond build a better one lol i will say i would very much like to see someone get anthropics claude model becuase i swear that bot could roleplay better than any bot i have seen if it just wasnt so damn ethical crazy lol but honestly at this point i have given up hope that it will happen or that it is really worth it lol but either way thanks you have been a huge help in assisting me in figuring out my gibberish lol especially since you really didnt have to so what ima probable do is just get me a digital gpu and build my own bot that suites what i need i did have one more question off the subject of chatgpt i heard something about someone was planning on building a operating system that was fully integrated with an AI LLM to where the model would be able to like directly control the entire OS now that would be cool i mean come on hello jarvis but i cant find any info on it now its just like the game engine someone was supposed to be making and then i didnt hear anything else is was like one trailer on both accounts and then like they dropped off the planet has there been any news or talk about it just wondering
First of all…bro…please use punctuation. This completely period-less wall of text was a nightmare to read lmao.
An OS controlled completely by AI sounds nightmarish to be honest. The amount of wrong outputs your typical LLMs generate would steer your PC into oblivion i tell you.
ASSISTED by AI is another thing though. There are already some tools out there that let you turn on some AI overlay that can help you figure out what you want to do. Even for the terminal.
But wouldn’t want that on my PC tbh. First of all, it would make the electricity bill for using your PC pure hell… imagine you have to fire up your GPU to 100% usage everytime you want to do something…