I’ve read on reddit I think that if you are torrenting using a private tracker you’re gonna be fine even without VPN.
The question is: isn’t the tracker is just a server that leads my torrent client to the pieces of the file on the seeders? And the connection between me and the seeders is p2p, isn’t that type of connection is what makes your ISP snitch you? So what is different about private trackers? And where to find them?
Torrents are registered. Only people who can access the private website get access to the torrent. It’s much harder for the bottom barrel legal teams that just sit on them recording IPs, like they do on public ones.
They can certainly get into a private tracker but will be found before long. This also depends on how the private tracker is run and by whom.
Use a VPN when doing illegal shit. Don’t leave to a shady website.
No protocol is illegal in and of itself. BitTorrent wasn’t created solely to aid in piracy. Most Linux distros have their OS seeded. Same goes for lots of the internet archive. I used to transfer work files all the time using it.
Just downloading/consuming isn’t the illegal part. It’s why you hear about torrent users getting ISP notices, but not people who download from usenet or watch pirate sports streams.
Why not? Because ISP don’t snitch on you in case of illegal streaming? The owner of the content must catch you in order to make legal procedures, right?
And what about usenet, I’ve read about it but I didn’t get it? Can you brief it out? How it similar to torrents and how it’s different?
Why not? Because ISP don’t snitch on you in case of illegal streaming?
Correct. ISPs aren’t monitoring for this stuff. They’re responding to complaints they get from copyright owners. With torrents, anyone in downloading the file can see IPs for everyone they’re downloading from. That’s how companies get IPs to follow up on, and why VPNs protect you (they’d just the IP of a VPN server). They then compile lists of these IPs, send to ISPs, who are then compelled by the courts to send letters and eventually disconnect you if you get caught again.
With streaming sites, the only one seeing your IP is the host of the site. Of course they’re not going to snitch, since you’re just watching the illegal stream they’ve made available. They’re the ones breaking the law in that case, you’re just watching a public stream. Obviously, you’re not expected to know whether every video on youtube was uploaded by the copyright owner. Instead, the onus for that falls on the uploader and host.
And what about usenet, I’ve read about it but I didn’t get it? Can you brief it out? How it similar to torrents and how it’s different?
Super high level: there’s two external parts, an indexer and a usenet provider. The indexer indexes .nzb files that serve as references to file locations on the usernet provider. Practically speaking, it maps pretty closely to .torrent files and the actual content you’re grabbing from peers, respectively. The important difference here is that the usenet providers host the content, rather than a bunch of random people (which can include corporate attorneys looking to contact your ISP).
Locally, you still use a client piece of software to download. You can send it a .nzb, and assuming it’s configured correctly with your usenet provider(s), will download the content.
Other important differences: 1. usenet indexers and providers are going to cost money, unlike torrenting. They tend to be pretty reasonable if you’re downloading a lot though. 2. Because the providers are more centralized than torrents, there’s some quirks. Retention is a factor, and generally the older something is, the harder it’ll be to find (or more expensive plan you’ll need with your provider), and not all providers have everything (so heavier users may need multiple providers to cover all their needs). A single good provider covers like 99% of what I need though.
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Torrents are registered. Only people who can access the private website get access to the torrent. It’s much harder for the bottom barrel legal teams that just sit on them recording IPs, like they do on public ones.
They can certainly get into a private tracker but will be found before long. This also depends on how the private tracker is run and by whom.
Use a VPN when doing illegal shit. Don’t leave to a shady website.
So p2p connection is not illegal unless it’s transmitting pirated content, which they can only know it by finding my ip on the list of peers, yeah?
No protocol is illegal in and of itself. BitTorrent wasn’t created solely to aid in piracy. Most Linux distros have their OS seeded. Same goes for lots of the internet archive. I used to transfer work files all the time using it.
This is accurate.
Just downloading/consuming isn’t the illegal part. It’s why you hear about torrent users getting ISP notices, but not people who download from usenet or watch pirate sports streams.
Why not? Because ISP don’t snitch on you in case of illegal streaming? The owner of the content must catch you in order to make legal procedures, right? And what about usenet, I’ve read about it but I didn’t get it? Can you brief it out? How it similar to torrents and how it’s different?
Correct. ISPs aren’t monitoring for this stuff. They’re responding to complaints they get from copyright owners. With torrents, anyone in downloading the file can see IPs for everyone they’re downloading from. That’s how companies get IPs to follow up on, and why VPNs protect you (they’d just the IP of a VPN server). They then compile lists of these IPs, send to ISPs, who are then compelled by the courts to send letters and eventually disconnect you if you get caught again.
With streaming sites, the only one seeing your IP is the host of the site. Of course they’re not going to snitch, since you’re just watching the illegal stream they’ve made available. They’re the ones breaking the law in that case, you’re just watching a public stream. Obviously, you’re not expected to know whether every video on youtube was uploaded by the copyright owner. Instead, the onus for that falls on the uploader and host.
Super high level: there’s two external parts, an indexer and a usenet provider. The indexer indexes .nzb files that serve as references to file locations on the usernet provider. Practically speaking, it maps pretty closely to .torrent files and the actual content you’re grabbing from peers, respectively. The important difference here is that the usenet providers host the content, rather than a bunch of random people (which can include corporate attorneys looking to contact your ISP).
Locally, you still use a client piece of software to download. You can send it a .nzb, and assuming it’s configured correctly with your usenet provider(s), will download the content.
Other important differences: 1. usenet indexers and providers are going to cost money, unlike torrenting. They tend to be pretty reasonable if you’re downloading a lot though. 2. Because the providers are more centralized than torrents, there’s some quirks. Retention is a factor, and generally the older something is, the harder it’ll be to find (or more expensive plan you’ll need with your provider), and not all providers have everything (so heavier users may need multiple providers to cover all their needs). A single good provider covers like 99% of what I need though.