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Hard pass. Apple devices aren’t good in regards to foss or privacy

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Neither Android TV on the Shield Pro, are you going to install something like Lineage on the Shield?.

Are there alternative firmwares available for shield?

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I believe there is Lineage for Android TV, but you won’t have the support of NVIDIA or the latest Google TV. You won’t have privacy neither Google or Apple, both devices have their pros and cons.

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Well, I will disagree. Apple is one of the best Hardware companies out there for not selling your data. Do they do other things wrong? Absolutely. A slew of things. But selling private data is not one of them.

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No matter how good the hardware is as long as it has ios, I wouldn’t touch it.

Not even google sells your data, the keep their precious to themselves.

Just in time another post about apple’s shenanigans. E.g. https://www.aalto.fi/en/news/keeping-your-data-from-apple-is-harder-than-expected

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I disagree with that article as well. But you seem vehemently anti-Apple, so I withdraw my recommendation, and I apologize for offering a possible answer to your question.

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Apple is one of the best Hardware companies out there for not selling your data.

Don’t believe their ads, they are actually one of the worst!

But the threat of Apple turning on its customers isn’t limited to China. While the company has been unwilling to spy on its users on behalf of the US government, it’s proven more than willing to compromise its worldwide users’ privacy to pad its own profits. Remember when Apple let its users opt out of Facebook surveillance with one click? At the very same time, Apple was spinning up its own commercial surveillance program, spying on Ios customers, gathering the very same data as Facebook, and for the very same purpose: to target ads. When it came to its own surveillance, Apple completely ignored its customers’ explicit refusal to consent to spying, spied on them anyway, and lied about it:

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Can you provide any examples of ads someone (maybe you?) received directly due to Apple’s policies and behavior? Totally serious question.

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Can you provide any examples of ads someone (maybe you?) received directly due to Apple’s policies and behavior? Totally serious question.

If you use an iPhone and have app tracking transparency enabled then any targeted ads you’re seeing are almost certainly coming from data that Apple has collected from you.

A few years back Apple made a big change to iOS that prevents user data from being sold to data brokers and ran a big ad campaign about how they are the good “privacy option”. But the reason they made the change was not to protect user privacy, but because Apple wanted the money that Facebook was getting from iPhone users. The same data is still being collected and sold, just by Apple now instead of Facebook. That was the crux of Facebook’s big lawsuit against Apple accusing them of anti-competitive practices.

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You mean the ‘Personalized Ads’ option? Why would anyone enable that?

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No. Clicking “ask app not to track” prevents apps from collecting your data. It does not prevent Apple from collecting that same data, which they do.

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I was referring to this

The page you’re linking to is a good read. I had heard about a handful of the problems through the years, but having them presented and precisely explained like this was great, I think.

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Cory Doctorow is uniquely able to cut straight to the heart of the matter. He is the same person who coined the term “enshittification” last year.

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