I thought r/piracy was dead but I see is very active, I don’t know if mods changed or something though. Where do you guys think is best to ask questions?
Assuming that is really an issue (depends on who you are, what you’re doing, and the motivation of the actor mounting such spying infrastructure), how is it any different on Reddit? First, being closed source and everything, we can’t rule out that easier and large scale logging isn’t already implemented. Secondly, such actor would probably just pay the API and scrape the same data if not with more details. It would also get extra metadata from brokers, etc.
Ultimately, if you want privacy, I agree that federation is undesired. That’s why there are Lemmy instances that block all other instances by default. AFAIK those were from right extremists and pesos, at least judging by the name of their URLs.
Well, on Reddit any party can pay the API prices that are needed to scrape data. So, the paywall. I guess it’s some measure… But if you are being tracked by such an actor, your threat model can’t really include reddit… It’s defeating the purpose. All this is discussion on air.
Reddit doesn’t provide nearly the same level of granular data that Lemmy does via the API or any publicly available channels. While we can’t verify whether stuff like upvote data is sent or sold to data brokers, we do know that Lemmy, by design, gives it to literally anyone who wants it.
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Assuming that is really an issue (depends on who you are, what you’re doing, and the motivation of the actor mounting such spying infrastructure), how is it any different on Reddit? First, being closed source and everything, we can’t rule out that easier and large scale logging isn’t already implemented. Secondly, such actor would probably just pay the API and scrape the same data if not with more details. It would also get extra metadata from brokers, etc.
Ultimately, if you want privacy, I agree that federation is undesired. That’s why there are Lemmy instances that block all other instances by default. AFAIK those were from right extremists and pesos, at least judging by the name of their URLs.
The difference here is that on Reddit, only 1 party has access to your info. On Lemmy, it’s any party who has an instance that federates with yours.
Well, on Reddit any party can pay the API prices that are needed to scrape data. So, the paywall. I guess it’s some measure… But if you are being tracked by such an actor, your threat model can’t really include reddit… It’s defeating the purpose. All this is discussion on air.
Reddit doesn’t provide nearly the same level of granular data that Lemmy does via the API or any publicly available channels. While we can’t verify whether stuff like upvote data is sent or sold to data brokers, we do know that Lemmy, by design, gives it to literally anyone who wants it.
On one hand everyone can access it, on the other, 1 party can sell it.