Parliament just voted against a motion that would have struck a citizens' assembly on electoral reform. Here's why replacing our first-past-the-post system is still a good idea, and why the Trudeau Liberals should just get on with it already.
I would argue the reason we the people haven’t gotten proportional representation yet is because the population isn’t informed about the topic enough to put on enough pressure on the liberals and conservatives who voted against the citizens’ assembly motion m-86 however 40 liberals and 3 conservatives have voted in favour of advancing it. We could apply the pressure on those establishment mps who are enabling the powerful few. I should create a list naming and shaming the 220 who voted no on the issue.
None of the parties agreed, none of turn ever will, it’s too entrenched.
This needs to be done incredibly carefully, and for people who think it should be easy, what happens in the next election when the CPC are expected to win a landslide majority, and Polievre says “let’s make a change, we have the numbers”
We have what we have. It could be better, but it could be a lot worse.
You mean the election we’re looking at right now, under First Past The Post?
Half of the reason the CPC ever wins is because the left vote is so splintered in Canada. Basically any system other than FPTP is more representative and will result in more fair elections
And what happens to Canada when we get rid of that system, the Conservative numbers plummet, they cry foul, and suddenly Alberta wants to leave Canada.
You’re right. Clearly the answer is to continue to submit ourselves to the conservative and neoliberal minority rule that has lead to the current moment. It’s clearly working so well and has such excellent future prospects for everyone who lives under it.
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lol … as if … the ones who have the power to change things are also the ones who stand to lose everything.
It’s a great idea for a political party to make a promise on … but not such a good idea if you want to keep power for your political party.
A major change like this would hand over power to the people … when currently the power rests with those who have the most money, finances and wealth.
Do we honestly think that this will change?
I don’t want to be pessimistic about it all … but I am practically aware of why it won’t change.
I would argue the reason we the people haven’t gotten proportional representation yet is because the population isn’t informed about the topic enough to put on enough pressure on the liberals and conservatives who voted against the citizens’ assembly motion m-86 however 40 liberals and 3 conservatives have voted in favour of advancing it. We could apply the pressure on those establishment mps who are enabling the powerful few. I should create a list naming and shaming the 220 who voted no on the issue.
https://www.fairvote.ca/21/02/2024/vote-result-mps-from-all-parties-vote-for-motion-m-86-for-a-citizens-assembly-but-not-enough-to-win/
We keep voting for parties who are against improving our democracy. Most Canadians don’t care.
But that might give parties other than the liberals or conservatives a solid chance at power! It’s practically treason!
None of the parties agreed, none of turn ever will, it’s too entrenched.
This needs to be done incredibly carefully, and for people who think it should be easy, what happens in the next election when the CPC are expected to win a landslide majority, and Polievre says “let’s make a change, we have the numbers”
We have what we have. It could be better, but it could be a lot worse.
You mean the election we’re looking at right now, under First Past The Post?
Half of the reason the CPC ever wins is because the left vote is so splintered in Canada. Basically any system other than FPTP is more representative and will result in more fair elections
And what happens to Canada when we get rid of that system, the Conservative numbers plummet, they cry foul, and suddenly Alberta wants to leave Canada.
You’re right. Clearly the answer is to continue to submit ourselves to the conservative and neoliberal minority rule that has lead to the current moment. It’s clearly working so well and has such excellent future prospects for everyone who lives under it.
It’s the system that has been used in Britain and their colonies for centuries. It’s not perfect, but it has endured.
I’m not saying we can’t do better, bit I am saying this is an existential change that we have to be careful about.
It could literally destroy the country if not managed correctly.
Since none of the current parties agreed, with not even two major parties agreeing, it seems like a bad idea to just force though.