“I was well within my rights and I was not doing anything unjust,” Dsta’hyl told reporters on Wednesday. “We were seizing equipment that was destroying our lands.”
He may well have been within his rights. But it also seems clear that he was not imprisoned “solely because of his political, religious, or other conscientiously held beliefs.” I don’t understand the rationale for this declaration.
Honestly looking them up now was the first time I’d seen anything good related to them. They made presentations in school as I was growing up that were…off the mark. Pushing for a “child” to be released when they became an adult but had committed some truly heinous crimes was not relatable.
This person is your age or younger and committed multiple murders and rapes. Could you imagine having to spend the rest of your life in jail for a mistake you made as a child?
Maybe if the murder had been accidental or the rape/sexual assault had been done by someone not old enough to understand. E.g. a 5 year old that was being abused and abused another child because that was all they knew. Or someone accidentally making mustard gas while cleaning.
Nope. Not the cases they showed off. These details and such are not exact because it’s been decades. I do distinctly remember that the students were horrified and stopped volunteering with them. They brought gems like a teen (15?) murdering a family because the pre-teen daughter didn’t want to date him. He then raped her, her mother, and the infant/toddler. Or an older teen that was killing people and eventually poisoned the community water supply. Not by accident. Trial and errored until people stopped just getting indigestion and started dying. Caught when they tried to replicate their “success” at a different water supply.
Otherwise they’ve shown up for gems like a toxic workplace, screwing over Navalny based on posts from a pro-kremlin source, poor spending practices by an excess of upper management, claiming credit for things they didn’t actually contribute to, and trying to throw Ukraine under the bus but being fine with Russia’s actions.
I understand. It was particularly galling to me that they doubled down on the report after the initial backlash on it. It came out after that that they hadn’t used the Ukranian teams to write it and had interviewed POWs in russian detention for source references which is inherently problematic for a couple of reasons.
This Wikipedia entry neatly summarizes a lot of the criticisms at the time and AI’s response which was weak, to say the least. Because of the incredibly tense nature of the active war in Ukraine and how this report would obviously be interpreted, plus the effective doubling-down AI chose to follow the report with - I just can’t with them anymore.
It’s a shame, I supported them for decades, but. They really fucked up.
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He may well have been within his rights. But it also seems clear that he was not imprisoned “solely because of his political, religious, or other conscientiously held beliefs.” I don’t understand the rationale for this declaration.
Imprisoned != house arrest
That’s an extremely concerning take
Lol
It’s a shame I have zero trust or respect for Amnesty International these days. I’d bet there’s something to this story. But I won’t hear it from AI.
Honestly looking them up now was the first time I’d seen anything good related to them. They made presentations in school as I was growing up that were…off the mark. Pushing for a “child” to be released when they became an adult but had committed some truly heinous crimes was not relatable.
Maybe if the murder had been accidental or the rape/sexual assault had been done by someone not old enough to understand. E.g. a 5 year old that was being abused and abused another child because that was all they knew. Or someone accidentally making mustard gas while cleaning.
Nope. Not the cases they showed off. These details and such are not exact because it’s been decades. I do distinctly remember that the students were horrified and stopped volunteering with them. They brought gems like a teen (15?) murdering a family because the pre-teen daughter didn’t want to date him. He then raped her, her mother, and the infant/toddler. Or an older teen that was killing people and eventually poisoned the community water supply. Not by accident. Trial and errored until people stopped just getting indigestion and started dying. Caught when they tried to replicate their “success” at a different water supply.
Otherwise they’ve shown up for gems like a toxic workplace, screwing over Navalny based on posts from a pro-kremlin source, poor spending practices by an excess of upper management, claiming credit for things they didn’t actually contribute to, and trying to throw Ukraine under the bus but being fine with Russia’s actions.
What’d they do?
https://www.reuters.com/world/head-ukraines-amnesty-office-leaves-after-group-accuses-kyiv-2022-08-06/
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/amnesty-announces-review-as-ukraine-report-backlash-continues/
That second one is pretty clear. Thanks for the link. I’m not sure it justifies discounting them forever, but it’s good to keep in mind.
I understand. It was particularly galling to me that they doubled down on the report after the initial backlash on it. It came out after that that they hadn’t used the Ukranian teams to write it and had interviewed POWs in russian detention for source references which is inherently problematic for a couple of reasons.
This Wikipedia entry neatly summarizes a lot of the criticisms at the time and AI’s response which was weak, to say the least. Because of the incredibly tense nature of the active war in Ukraine and how this report would obviously be interpreted, plus the effective doubling-down AI chose to follow the report with - I just can’t with them anymore.
It’s a shame, I supported them for decades, but. They really fucked up.