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You may call that a solution, but that sounds like continuing the problem (that is, substance abuse).

Substance-abuse pales in comparison to death. I don’t care if people are addicted to substances as long as they continue to live they have an opportunity to quit.

But if the government is saying there’s not enough money to continue, what’s the next step?

The government isn’t saying that. The government is saying there isn’t money to expand the programs. This is primarily political because people on the right have attacked evidence-based addiction treatment.

what’s the next step?

More deaths. Either that, or expand safe supply which as previously noted has political opposition from the right. Conservatives are playing politics with peoples lives.

You know what they say: “Prevention is better than cure.”

If you want to prevent deaths due to toxic drugs, the obvious answer is to provide non-toxic drugs. You have no control over whether or not people use drugs. The only thing you can do with 100% certainty is provide clean safe drugs.

It may be true that some people will simply stop using drugs in their own time (not likely with opioids)

Show proof that opioids is less likely.

getting 1 out of 10 people to sober up is much better than enabling continued consumption through “safe alcohol consumption sites”, right?

Not if the other nine are dead, right?

With the limited funds available, what approach would be most effective to tackle this problem?

Safe supply and harm reduction. Clean, safe drugs including stimulant would cost very little. In addition the money saved from policing, courts, incarceration plus reduced burden on paramedics and others in healthcare means that even after the government provided safe supply they would still be saving money.

Ironically the right wing libertarian Cato institute believes the same thing. https://www.cato.org/commentary/economic-moral-case-legalizing-cocaine-heroin#

As I previously explained, this is political. The NDP is worried about right wing backlash in the approach to an election. Instead of doing the right thing, they have caved to political pressure.


The majority of Canadian provinces have conservative governments. Why do people vote against their own class interests?

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” ― Edward Bernays, Propaganda


I think you read my response, but perhaps didn’t understand it.

But “prolonging life” as an addict just gives someone more opportunities to die.

People are dying because they are consuming drugs of unknown purity and strength. That is, you don’t know what’s in your drugs and you don’t know how strong the drugs are. There are simple solutions to these problems. Best solution is to provide a safe supply. Second best solution have safe consumption sites and drug testing available.

the reasons why people are taking these drugs in the first place.

There are as many reasons to take drugs as there are people taking them. The reasons aren’t our concern. Obviously poverty, housing and employment are things we can help people with, but beyond that it’s up to the individual user. As I pointed out the majority of people using drugs will quit on their own in time. https://www.npr.org/2022/01/15/1071282194/addiction-substance-recovery-treatment

If B.C drags out a program that isn’t getting results (i.e. getting people off drugs)

How successful do you think treatment is? Would it surprise you to learn that faith based recovery has a success rate of about 5 to 10%? There are other programs that have slightly better results but in general abstinence based treatment is a dismal failure.

A new book concludes that the success rate for Alcoholics Anonymous is between 5 and 10 per cent, one of the worst in all of medicine https://www.thestar.com/life/alcoholics-anonymous-has-a-terrible-success-rate-addiction-expert-finds/article_b8a76bb7-0d3c-565d-be99-d57d3337e491.html

This article was part of my first response to you.

When she says “most people,” she means most people who get long-term medication-assisted treatment (MAT), widely considered the gold standard in addiction care. It combines regular counseling and behavioral therapy with the medication methadone or buprenorphine (often prescribed under the brand name Suboxone). Both contain synthetic opioid compounds, which prevent withdrawal and cravings, and they can lower overdoses by as much as 76 percent. (A third medication, less often used, is naltrexone, which blocks the high from opioids.)

The philosophy of MAT — a departure from the moralizing, abstinence-based rehab and 12-step programs that dominated addiction care for most of the 20th century — began to take shape in the early 2000s, when the Food and Drug Administration approved buprenorphine and a federal law authorized primary care physicians to prescribe it.

MAT shifted the treatment paradigm dramatically. Now, every overdose death is a tragedy, Wakeman told me, not because opioid addiction is unsolvable but because, like so many other chronic illnesses, it’s now very treatable. https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2024/1/16/24033590/treatment-opioid-addiction-crisis-2024

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/200405/the-surprising-truth-about-addiction-0

The Surprising Truth About Addiction More people quit addictions than maintain them, and they do so on their own. That’s not to say it happens overnight. People succeed when they recognize that the addiction interferes with something they value—and when they develop the confidence that they can change.

I keep editing to add more links.

The first step has to be keeping people alive. The second step is building a relationship with the people so that they feel comfortable accepting help. This can be done through overdose prevention centres and drug testing facilities. The third step would be medication assisted treatment, but not everyone will be receptive to the idea. Therefore we repeat step one and step two.




I am going to assume you honestly don’t know and are asking a legitimate question.

We are in the middle of an toxic drug crisis, in British Columbia almost 7 people a day are dying. Now this may surprise you, but dead people don’t recover. Therefore the most important thing we can try to do in the short term is save lives. Rehab and treatment are obviously part of the solution, but they don’t work for everybody and in fact the data suggests Abstinence-Only Opioid Treatment Is Deadlier Than None.

Incidence rates for opioid poisoning deaths for those exposed to treatment ranged from 6.06±1.40 per 1000 persons exposed to methadone to 17.36±3.22 per 1000 persons exposed to any non-medication treatment. The estimated incidence rate for those not exposed to treatment was 9.80±0.72 per 1000 persons. With no exposure to treatment as referent, exposure to methadone or buprenorphine reduced the relative risk by 38% or 34%, respectively; the relative risk of non-medication treatments was equal to or worse than no exposure to treatment (RR = 1.27–1.77). https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0376871623012784?via%3Dihub

Now as many people with lived experience and people who study the subject will tell you the majority of people will age out of addiction on their own in time. The key is providing the resources they need to do that and of course keeping them alive.

We have treatments for opioid addiction that work. https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2024/1/16/24033590/treatment-opioid-addiction-crisis-2024



cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/16064584 > > “For young people, [they] often don’t have access to harm reduction services to the extent that older people have,” said DeBeck. “A lot of it is a reluctance to give them access to evidence-based harm reduction programs, I think out of fear that they might encourage substance use among young people or somehow send the wrong message.” > > > “The impact is that young people aren't given the protections that those evidence-based interventions can provide,” added DeBeck.
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Rising drug toxicity deaths in N.L. prompts questions around whether mental health and addictions ministry is needed
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/16064288 > > Safe supply programs provide prescribed medications as a safer alternative to the toxic illegal drug supply to people who are at high risk of overdose. > > > On the Government of Canada's website, it says safer supply services help save lives, stating, "Safer supply services can help prevent overdoses, save lives, and connect people who use drugs to other health and social services."
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/16062938 > cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/16062930 > > > > Substance-users who got drugs vetted for fatal contaminants from a now-closed compassion club significantly reduced their overdose rates, keeping them alive during the fatal drug overdose crisis, says a University of B.C. professor involved in newly released research. > > > > > The findings, published Thursday in an international drug-policy research journal, tracked 47 participants of a compassion club run by the Drug User Liberation Front (DULF), which received Vancouver Coastal Health funding to test drugs in a University of Victoria lab before selling them to members in a Downtown Eastside storefront in Vancouver
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> As a resident of Duncan I’m distressed about the rise in hateful rhetoric from groups such as Canadian Citizens Against Crime and Public Drug Abuse. Founder Travis Rankin has been quoted in several media outlets in the last few months, including this one, and now the rally the group is planning for Friday could have serious and dangerous consequences for our most vulnerable community members. > This protest is based in fear, not in facts. Rankin and his group equate drug use and homelessness with crime. Evidence demonstrates that unhoused people, people who use substances and people who experience mental illness are significantly more likely to be targets of crime, rather than perpetrators.
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> Vancouver Police Department (VPD) data indicates that seizures of drugs by officers in quantities at or below 2.5 grams increased by 34 per cent in the six months after British Columbia implemented its “decriminalization” model, when compared with the six months prior. > Amid a worsening drug toxicity crisis that has killed over 13,000 people since April 2016, the B.C. government implemented a “decriminalization” framework for certain drugs in quantities at or under 2.5 grams on Jan. 31, 2023, in coordination with the federal government. The federal government granted the province an exemption to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (CDSA). The model has a notable number of exceptions and disclaimers.
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> “It is bad enough that police arrested a journalist for doing her job, but it is outrageous that prosecutors would even consider pursuing the charges against Brandi Morin. These tactics are meant to intimidate independent reporters and this case is tantamount to criminalizing journalism. It will set a dangerous precedent for a country that otherwise ranks high globally on the RSF World Press Freedom Index. Clayton Weimers RSF USA Executive Director
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I find your hand-wringing over water and sanitation issues to be disingenuous. Obviously the city can provide freshwater and Porta potty’s so that’s not really an issue.

They are not “hoarding”, they are gathering together for survival. You are confusing the poorest and most vulnerable people in our society with corporations and the wealthy who are hoarding housing. They are in communal space because that’s all they have, they have no where else, they have to exist in communal space. If the tent communities are smashed the people don’t suddenly disappear, they simply disperse into the neighbourhoods making them even more more vulnerable.

What’s this nonsense about building shacks in the woods? Do they have support systems there? Where is the food supposed to come from, what about medical care?




> Poilievre has now been the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada for more than a year. He rode into the job on a wave of popular support from the anti-vaccine ‘Freedom Convoy,’ and has done everything he can since then to make that crowd proud. > He has pandered to conspiracy theories around the World Economic Forum by vowing to forbid his ministers and staff from attending the annual thought-leader hobknobbing event in Davos. He has made good by the anti-vaxxers by tabling legislation to ban COVID-19 vaccine mandates of any sort. He has winked at the anti-Ukraine camp by bashing a new Ottawa-Kyiv trade deal.
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Government extends ban on foreign buying of Canadian housing
> The federal government is extending its ban on foreign home purchasing in Canada, Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland announced in a release Sunday. > The rule, which was first introduced in 2022, will now be extended until the beginning of 2027. It bans foreign nationals and commercial enterprises from buying residential property in Canada, with exceptions for some international students, refugee claimants and temporary workers.
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So you don’t have any evidence, and now you want to bring mythical “Russian aligned bad actors” in to support your claim?

this was my response to another commenter

According to a paper published by NATO Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence, the strategic use of human shields by groups like Hamas hinges on exploiting Israel’s aim to minimize civilian casualties and the sensitivity of Western public opinion. This tactic allows Hamas to either accuse Israel of war crimes if civilian casualties occur or to protect its assets and continue operations if the IDF limits its military response. This approach is an example of ‘lawfare’, using legal and public platforms to challenge an adversary.[6][7] Israel has said that Hamas’s actions have been responsible for civilian casualties in Gaza,[8][9] Human rights groups have said that even if Hamas were using human shields, Israel must still abide by international law to protect civilians.[10][11]

Amnesty International investigated claims made by Israel in the 2008–2009 Gaza War and the 2014 Gaza War that Hamas employed human shields, but found no evidence of such usage. In their report on the 2008-2009 war, Amnesty said that “contrary to repeated allegations by Israeli officials” that it had found no evidence of Hamas directing civilians to shield military assets or that it had forced civilians to remain in or near buildings used by fighters. Amnesty found that Hamas has launched rockets from near civilian locations, which it said endangered civilians and amounted to a violation of the requirement that Hamas take all necessary precautions to protect civilians from military action, but that this does not constitute shielding under international law.[12] In 2014, Amnesty said, regarding repeated allegations by Israel of Hamas using civilians as human shields, that it “does not have evidence at this point that Palestinian civilians have been intentionally used by Hamas or Palestinian armed groups during the current hostilities to ‘shield’ specific locations or military personnel or equipment from Israeli attacks.” They also said that Hamas urging residents to ignore Israeli warnings to evacuate “are not the same as directing specific civilians to remain in their homes as ‘human shields’ for fighters, munitions, or military equipment.”[10] Human Rights Watch also said they found no evidence that Hamas had used human shields in the 2009 conflict.[13] In 2023, HRW stated “Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups need to take all feasible precautions to protect civilians under their control from the effects of attacks and not use civilians as ‘human shields.’”[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_human_shields_by_Hamas#cite_note-HRW2023-14

Understand some people are squeamish about using wiki as a source, but they have cited all of their sources and we can track them back to the originals if you like.


According to a paper published by NATO Strategic Communications Centre of Excellence, the strategic use of human shields by groups like Hamas hinges on exploiting Israel’s aim to minimize civilian casualties and the sensitivity of Western public opinion. This tactic allows Hamas to either accuse Israel of war crimes if civilian casualties occur or to protect its assets and continue operations if the IDF limits its military response. This approach is an example of ‘lawfare’, using legal and public platforms to challenge an adversary.[6][7] Israel has said that Hamas’s actions have been responsible for civilian casualties in Gaza,[8][9] Human rights groups have said that even if Hamas were using human shields, Israel must still abide by international law to protect civilians.[10][11]

Amnesty International investigated claims made by Israel in the 2008–2009 Gaza War and the 2014 Gaza War that Hamas employed human shields, but found no evidence of such usage. In their report on the 2008-2009 war, Amnesty said that “contrary to repeated allegations by Israeli officials” that it had found no evidence of Hamas directing civilians to shield military assets or that it had forced civilians to remain in or near buildings used by fighters. Amnesty found that Hamas has launched rockets from near civilian locations, which it said endangered civilians and amounted to a violation of the requirement that Hamas take all necessary precautions to protect civilians from military action, but that this does not constitute shielding under international law.[12] In 2014, Amnesty said, regarding repeated allegations by Israel of Hamas using civilians as human shields, that it “does not have evidence at this point that Palestinian civilians have been intentionally used by Hamas or Palestinian armed groups during the current hostilities to ‘shield’ specific locations or military personnel or equipment from Israeli attacks.” They also said that Hamas urging residents to ignore Israeli warnings to evacuate “are not the same as directing specific civilians to remain in their homes as ‘human shields’ for fighters, munitions, or military equipment.”[10] Human Rights Watch also said they found no evidence that Hamas had used human shields in the 2009 conflict.[13] In 2023, HRW stated “Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups need to take all feasible precautions to protect civilians under their control from the effects of attacks and not use civilians as ‘human shields.’”[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_human_shields_by_Hamas#cite_note-HRW2023-14

Understand some people are squeamish about using wiki as a source, but they have cited all of their sources and we can track them back to the originals if you like.


I don’t care what you think. I want you to supply actual evidence. Do you have any?

There is plenty of evidence of Israel using Palestinian children as human shields. Perhaps you got confused.

A United Nations committee focused on youth rights accused Israel Thursday of failing to stop the mistreatment of Palestinian children in military and police custody.

The group’s report accuses Israeli forces of using Palestinian children as human shields, and alleges that detained children in some cases face torture, solitary confinement and threats of sexual assault.

Assembled by the U.N. Committee on the Rights of the Child, the 21-page document comes three months after a UNICEF paper criticized the “systematic and institutionalized” mistreatment of Palestinian children detained by the Israeli military.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-report-accuses-israeli-forces-of-using-palestinian-children-as-human-shields-abusing-children-in-custody/

Sidenote, there was no image accompanying the above story, but it’s very simple to find images with a Google search


Please supply evidence proving Hamas will not let the orphans leave.


https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231211-report-nearly-25000-children-in-gaza-now-orphans/

Initial figures from Gaza indicate that 24,000-25,000 Palestinian children in Gaza have become orphans as a result of Israel’s genocidal bombing campaign on the besieged enclave, Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor said.

The rights group’s initial report highlighted that 10,000 children had been killed as a result of Israel’s bombs, while some 25,000 had lost one or both of their parents. Some 640,000 children had lost their homes after they were either partially or totally destroyed, leaving them homeless.

In addition, the future of hundreds of thousands of children is still unknown, as 217 schools in the Gaza Strip have been damaged or destroyed during the Israeli attacks, severely affecting the education process in the Strip.


In both cases a smaller weaker nation has been on the receiving end of military aggression. In both cases civilians were displaced causing them to become refugees.


Among younger Americans, and along political lines, divisions are more prominent. Almost half of those surveyed aged 18-29, 49%, say Israel is committing genocide, with 24% disagreeing and 27% uncertain.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/24/americans-believe-israel-committing-genocide-poll


The number of people facing possible starvation in the Gaza Strip in the coming weeks is the largest share of a population at risk of famine identified anywhere since a United Nations-affiliated panel created the current global food-insecurity assessment 20 years ago.

“The rigor, scale and speed of the destruction of the structures necessary for survival, and enforcement of the siege, surpasses any other case of man-made famine in the last 75 years,” said Alex de Waal, an expert on humanitarian crises and international law at Tufts University who wrote “Mass Starvation: The History and Future of Famine.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/11/health/gaza-israel-hunger-starvation.html


Israeli Intelligence Has Deemed Hamas-Run Health Ministry’s Death Toll Figures Generally Accurate

According to the Ministry of Health, which reports to Gaza’s Hamas-led government, at least 27,500 civilians have been killed and more than 63,000 wounded since Israel began military operations in response to the Oct. 7 attacks, which killed at least 1100 Israelis and left more than 250 people hostage.

https://www.vice.com/en/section/news


ICJ says its not a genocide

This is incorrect.

LONDON — The International Court of Justice has found it is “plausible” that Israel has committed acts that violate the Genocide Convention. https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1227078791/icj-israel-genocide-gaza-palestinians-south-africa

I blocked the user, because he was clearly not interested in having a discussion.




I think you’re confusing an informal opinion poll taken by the media outlet with official polling numbers. It would have been better to list the polls being cited, but in general most Americans want to see an immediate cease-fire. I’ll keep my eyes open for more data

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/6/us-congress-support-for-gaza-ceasefire-lower-than-american-public


Go visit Somalia. Cops are defunded there. Come back in a year if you can.

Or, if that’s not what you want. Pick a better fucking slogan so the anarcho-kids aren’t your supporters in name only.

And maybe you pick up a badge and do it. There are many openings for a big brain.

Do you put salt on the boots before you lick them? Just asking for a friend.


Well then perhaps you should’ve read the piece. The idea as put forward in the article is that we should close tax loopholes to prevent Canadians from donating to Israeli universities taking part in the repression of Palestinians.

As for your opinion about the title, perhaps you’ll take the time to write the author and suggest he word things more to your liking in the future.

The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) has effectively granted IOF supporting universities charitable status, notably the ability to offer donors’ tax receipts. The CRA has a special category for international universities. The idea is that people should be able to get a tax deduction when donating to their alma mater or a university that would “ordinarily include Canadian students in its student body.” In other words, Canadian taxpayers can subsidize educational institutions that train Canadians.

But when it comes to Israeli universities the number of fundraising groups and sums raised is far beyond individuals donating to their alma mater or the number of Canadians studying there. While the universities have been empowered to offer Canadian donors tax credits, they also have fundraising branches in this country. Canadian Friends of Tel-Aviv University, Canadian Friends of the University of Haifa, Canadian Friends of Hebrew University, Canadian Friends of Ben-Gurion University, Canadian Friends of Bar Ilan University, Weizmann Canada and Technion Canada help raise money for Israeli universities. And the sums raised are astounding. Last month Canadian billionaire Sylvan Adams gave $135 million ($US 100 million) to Ben-Gurion University at a Canadian Friends of Ben-Gurion University gala. According to the 2021 report Who Gives and Who Gets: The Beneficiaries of Private Foundation Philanthropy, the single top recipient of private Canadian foundations between 2014 and 2018 was Israel’s Technion, which received $89 million.

In other words, Canadians are subsidizing universities with extensive ties to a genocidal force. Beyond that, the registered Canadian charities often instigate initiatives specifically to strengthen the Israeli military. As I detail here and here, Canadian Friends of Hebrew University and Technion Canada have instigated many IOF focused initiatives. Canadian Friends of the University of Haifa also funds an IDF training initiative. For its part, Canadian Friends of Haifa University is listed as a funder of an initiative that “form the backbone of the IDF’s elite training program”.

Yet according to CRA rules, registered charities are not allowed to support another country’s military. CRA guidelines state that “increasing the effectiveness and efficiency of Canada’s armed forces is charitable, but supporting the armed forces of another country is not.”


Economist John Kenneth Galbraith most vividly described it as the “horse and sparrow” theory: “If you feed the horse enough oats, some will pass through to the road for the sparrows.”


“That big f–king ogre looking dude that is in those videos he is actually like autistic,” an officer says in the clip.

“Then the f–king guys just beat the shit out of him and then he started crying. I felt bad for him, apparently the sergeant grabbed his balls and twisted, I guess. He was on the ground and everyone was just grabbing limbs. He didn’t have a limb to grab so he just like grabs his balls like 'You done now? You done resisting?”

The RCMP needs to be disbanded. You cannot reform this racist paramilitary garbage.


A new study indicates that abstinence-based inpatient addiction treatment fails to reduce drug poisoning risk.

Even worse: abstinence-oriented treatment may be associated with higher rates of opioid poisoning than no treatment at all.