It is not “pointless nitpicking”. It is very important holding fast against allowing very determined forces of hate any foothold whatever.

I argue 3 things:

1. Irrespective the truth value of your claim you should not forward that position as there are forces of oppression who will latch onto any conceit of inherent differences between cis and trans people and claim that is the oh-so-important difference around which they claim the need to organize the oppression they are rabidly looking for excuses for
2. Your claim is not true under the commonly understood nor scientific consensus of what “sex” is
3. Even under your claim—which I consider simplistic and reductive—that sex is mere reproductive capability via sperm or eggs your assertion remains false

although it can be lost

No one “in casual conversation” considers someone “sexless” when they lose their gonads to cancer, nor do you know the “sex” of anyone to whose sex you have referred in going on high-90s percent of cases by your ridiculously narrow definition—I can’t imagine in those cases where you find yourself considering using either term you jam the person with a needle or jerk them off into a cup and bust out a microscope to check motility.

Finally I’m not sure what you hope to gain by your pedantry—they’re never gonna let you into the car.

Being trans myself, I will gladly tell you no one can change their biological sex yet

This is wrong.

“Sex” is determined by myriad inter-related physical and chemical factors which are absolutely capable of changing.

The view you are adding whatever credence being trans gives you to the discussion not only is incorrect it is adopted and propagated to back-justify oppression.

Do not do that.

A woman who was assigned female at birth and later lost her uterus to cancer wouldn’t stop being referred to as “female, late 40s” when her chart is being filled out by EMTs. The distinction you are attempting to hold up is meaningless to how “sex” gets used socially and epidemiologically.

Isn’t it just “patients”?

The Fediverse is the Fediverse by not being Meta. You are arguing for destroying the Fediverse for everyone by waving Meta in.

Why do you keep putting my and others’ @ in your messages? If that’s a your instance thing it’s weird.

that’s not how the perception of the masses works, though.

How can allowing access to everything on something people start out viewing as the defualt make it seem like less of the default?

Only by things existing outside of threads can people realize it it not.

people hate Facebook. Or Meta.

I agree; people rightly hate facebook and meta

I never said that people should use Threads to join the Fediverse. I said that people who already use Threads can be more easily convinced to join this place.

How will you convince them if they can get everything the fediverse offers without leaving Threads?

I don’t think letting people interact with you without leaving Meta hurts Meta, no.

Building something bad actors aren’t allowed to access and telling people about it without letting Meta play middleman is how you get people off meta,not throwing open the doors to Evil.

This didn’t work, sadly.

How much are those relationships worth then?

And it doesn’t work because such platforms make you think that they are the default

You make Meta seem more like the default by allowing contact with you through it. Be something they can’t access while associating with evil.

I’m happy for you, or sorry that happened.

You are infinitely safer interacting with a Threads user here than by actually using Threads itself.

You should not be interacting with Threads. No one should be, and you should not legitimize it’s use.

You will not convince people to leave threads by letting them stay on threads and still talk to you.

I’m against it sounding like “Threads” i.e. as though it’s something Meta owns and controls. For all I know your use came first and the thing I hate is Meta appropriating it, though.

Marx’s Das Kapital for beginners

Are you going to tell me “Beowulf For Dummies” is the same text as Bēowulf?

No. I sent you a commentary. I doubt you could handle Das Kapital.

Facebook is not (yet?) negatively impacting the fediverse. Fediverse users are.

Meta negatively impacts everything by being Meta. You should not cover for nor defend them.

Oohh, you read das Kapital

Where did I say I’ve read Das Kapital? Das Kapital isn’t even the book I linked you.

If that’s true, I hate it.

that’s why you have to get as many people here before the last e phase ;)

You are arguing for drinking gasoline before the spark comes rather than setting out a sign banning flammable liquids.

You cannot out Meta Meta or use their desire to hurt you against them. You can only oppose them with hard walls and hard lines.

I dislike Facebook, so that’s why I am here. But if the only way to stay in touch with people I know irl is on Threads, so be it.

Do you see how they are already using their size to control and negatively impact the fediverse? The very fact you are arguing that.

If you know them IRL, you can tell them IRL to get off of facebook.

If they won’t well, either keep talking to them IRL or reexamine who your friends are.

entering the Threadiverse

That’s not a fucking thing. Threads doesn’t own the Fediverse and they clearly are not welcome on it either.

Federating with Threads only hurts Meta.
…
Defederating helps Meta.

What the fuck are you talking about, That is the opposite of true.

“perfection is the enemy of progress”, right?

Isn’t there a difference between people starving when there isn’t enough food and having more than enough food you allow to rot so a small percentage of people can live as kings?

You get how that is different, right?

How many people dying while there are resources to prevent their dying is too many?
Are unhoused people an acceptable sacrifice to Mammon in your view?

Why do you assume people arguing (correctly) against the evils of capitalism want to go back to say feudalism and not progress toward a just system that respects universal human dignity and does not require human suffering to grease the wheels of machinery which lines a tiny % of pockets?

Compared to pre industrial humans, we live better than kings, and we work probably more like half less than they had to.

And yet with more than enough food to feed everyone and 30 times as many vacant homes per unhoused person, people still starve and die of exposure on the streets.

it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

I could forward you some reading if you’d like to be less ignorant, though I have my doubts you desire to be.

You almost sound like an AI bot, am I talking with an AI bot?

If you can’t tell it sounds like I’ve passed the Turing, at least.

What in the world has capitalism to do with this?

Nothing can be consensual under a system which privatizes the means of life and coerces behavior to attain access to natural resources everyone needs and no one made.

MAID can’t be consensual under capitalism, but all beings which exist have an inherent right to end their own existence whenever they decide to.

This wouldn’t be a discussion if a 27 year old shot themself, huffed an asphyxiant, or jumped off something high.

All you have to do is to tolerate that you can’t just call everyone nazi because they once had dinner with someone that might be a “nazi”

If you sat down and broke bread with someone who argued for killing all the Jews and Queers and you didn’t punch them in the mouth for even thinking that what the fuck do you think that would make you?

You are abetting an act of violence to allow people to try to organize a genocide, and any stage of that organization.

If 100 people are in the same room as a nazi they are all Nazis…

I said “having dinner”, but if a nazi shows up at your event and no one throws them out, that’s a nazi event.

All you have to do is not tolerate nazis, my dude.

10 people having dinner with a nazi is 11 nazis.

Why do you keep arguing for tolerating people fomenting genocide?

No. That’s not how it works.

That’s absolutely how it works; fascist shit said so himself:

“I was planning to go out tomorrow during the Women’s March to do some journalism but I can’t do that anymore,” Spencer told viewers.

Nazi gets protected by Somebody > Somebody turns Nazi> somebody is protected by someone else> someone else turns nazi and so on.

You’re laying it out wrong.

Nazi gets popped in the mouth > everybody cheers

See how we short-circuited your “spiral”?

with facebook involved? I feel a mistake is way more unlikely

Really, you don’t feel (correctly) open evil is the most probably scenario when zuck’s involved?

By your definition everyone is a nazi.

Everyone associates with and protects nazis? What are your social groups like to arrive at that opinion?

Nazism—the attempt to organize the commission of genocide—is an act of violence and must always be responded to as such.

Nazism is never minding its own business.

What do you call 10 people having dinner with a nazi?

excuse me but what the fuck is the nazi bat problem

When you find a nazi but you can’t find a bat.

If these services all start federating together

No one should federate with meta.

So at what point does/did it reach death spiral?

It isn’t so much a spiral as it is a series of 90 degree turns.

a good chunk of people would sooner not talk to you, rather than move a finger to change their ways.

That sounds like a problem that solves itself, and not a reason to put up with any fuckshit whatever from meta.

Are there any alternatives?

To sport? Try musical theatre.

How does one connect to users on WhatsApp and Messenger from outside of Meta?

You mail them a fucking letter saying, “Leave meta.”

You call them on the phone and say, “Leave meta.”

You visit them in person and say, “Leave meta.”

Hack into a defunct spy satellite and carve “LEAVE META” in the countryside using its lasers.

People exist outside of meta. They breath, they eat, they shit. Find that pile of meat that exists outside of zuck’s servers and get a message to it.
Shit, how did people communicate before facebook?

If a company has decided to use reddit as the only way to get real support you have 2 choices: use reddit or stop using the product.

If you use a product who would force the use of reddit to get support you have made the wrong one.

Make a reddit account

No, don’t.