What ever do you mean, I am told by plenty of people here that China is just a misunderstood communist society that is great, why would Hong Kong NOT want to be with China /s

Oh, of course, and tbh I kinda agree with a lot of what vegans have to say but I also know that tbh most people are not going to go vegan.

I know you probably think I am sitting here eating a steak now and that I only want to eat meat at this point but not really, I am actively trying to reduce meat in general in my diet and replace it with more veggies both for health and moral reasons. I can also think that (most) farms should absolutely treat animals better before slaughter. I can also agree that there are some animal products that are just unethical imo like veal or any baby animal used for food, or say a Foie gras.

But I also know that I am unlikely to cut ALL meat out of my diet, and I can also find the slaughter of far older animals to be less morally unjust, I mean I am ok with people taking what ever body part from me when I die, it’s why I am an organ donor, I would like to still be useful somehow after death.

https://www.saintlukeskc.org/about/news/research-shows-vegan-diet-leads-nutritional-deficiencies-health-problems-plant-forward#:~:text=Compared%20to%20the%20standard%20American,%2C%20and%20high%2Dquality%20protein.

researchers found that avoiding all animal foods may lead to nutritional deficiencies in vitamin B12, omega-3, calcium, zinc, iron, magnesium, and high-quality protein.

I mean we are a species have deficiencies without supplements if having a full vegan diet, how can you say we don’t need animal products when not using them causes our body problems?

You don’t need to rape or murder to live, you need food to survive, kinda two different things.

Plants are living things too, right? So why is it ok to eat them but not animals? Are you saying we should not eat plants too, because it also harm a living thing and we should all just die?

How about any carnivorous animals (which surprise, we are partially) do they need to stop eating meat too?