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You can ask about it on the official IRC channel. The creator of the Hare is based there.


Hare has an IRC official channel, but not all have IRC and want to use it. I think that using matrix space/rooms can add life to the Hare community.


I like to introduce you to matrix spaces for two languages, one is old and mature, and the other is new, effective, and promising. [#clang:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#clang:bsd.cafe) The C programming language Rooms: - [#c-lang:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-lang:bsd.cafe) ...programming in the C language in general - [#c-game-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-game-dev:bsd.cafe) ...game development in the C programming language, game engines, physics, ecs - [#c-embedded-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-embedded-dev:bsd.cafe) ...embedded systems development in the C programming language - [#c-sys-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-sys-dev:bsd.cafe) ...system programming in the C language, os, drivers - [#c-web-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-web-dev:bsd.cafe) ...web development in the C programming language, client, server, wasm - [#c-graphics-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-graphics-dev:bsd.cafe) ...graphics development in the C programming language, 2d, 3d, GUI - [#c-lang-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-lang-dev:bsd.cafe) ...programming languages development in the C language - [#c-ai-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-ai-dev:bsd.cafe) ...ai and data science using the C programming language, robotics - [#c-compiler:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-compiler:bsd.cafe) ...anything related to the C programming language compiler, tools - [#c-learning:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-learning:bsd.cafe) ...learning the C programming language together, sharing resources, asking for help - [#c-showcase:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-showcase:bsd.cafe) ...sharing own projects and development process in the C programming language - [#c-evangelism:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-evangelism:bsd.cafe) ...the C programming language will never die, philosophy, refutations - [#c-cafe:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#c-cafe:bsd.cafe) ...coffee breaks, off-topic, miscellaneous from the C language programmers [#hare:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare:bsd.cafe) The Hare programming language Rooms: - [#hare-lang:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-lang:bsd.cafe) ...programming in the Hare language in general - [#hare-game-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-game-dev:bsd.cafe) ...game development in the Hare programming language, game engines, physics, ecs - [#hare-embedded-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-embedded-dev:bsd.cafe) ...embedded systems development in the Hare programming language - [#hare-sys-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-sys-dev:bsd.cafe) ...system programming in the Hare language, os, drivers - [#hare-web-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-web-dev:bsd.cafe) ...web development in the Hare programming language, client, server, wasm - [#hare-graphics-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-graphics-dev:bsd.cafe) ...graphics development in the Hare programming language, 2d, 3d, GUI - [#hare-lang-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-lang-dev:bsd.cafe) ...programming languages development in the Hare language - [#hare-ai-dev:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-ai-dev:bsd.cafe) ...ai and data science using the Hare programming language, machine learning, robotics - [#hare-compiler:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-compiler:bsd.cafe) ...anything related to the Hare programming language compiler, tools - [#hare-learning:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-learning:bsd.cafe) ...learning the Hare programming language together, sharing resources, asking for help - [#hare-showcase:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-showcase:bsd.cafe) ...sharing own projects and development process in the Hare programming language - [#hare-evangelism:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-evangelism:bsd.cafe) ...the Hare programming language will never die, philosophy, refutations - [#hare-cafe:bsd.cafe](https://matrix.to/#/#hare-cafe:bsd.cafe) ...coffee breaks, off-topic, miscellaneous from the Hare language programmers
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Thank you for your support. Yes, and new tech is not always good.


Almost all what is going on today in commercial development is based on knowing frameworks and existing libraries and is far from engineering. I am working in that 19 years and also feel that am not a true engineer, at least at my job. Yes, I developed my own UI client framework, but who know it, who need it except my company… I am not in the 5% of top world engineers. And you know what I think, I do not care. Do f#$*k off, commercial development. I have hobbies, I learn languages that I like and writing code just for fun, solving problems on codewars. I believe that true thech like C and freebsd, emacs and some other not popular in commercial development programming languages is my way. And yes, I am earning money at my job, but at the same time, as I said, I tell all these overhyped shit “do f#@&k off” and going my own way. That’s my life. Have a luck, bro. Find your own path.


I advise you to learn something different and hard for you. Only this case will help you to grow and realize a lot of new.

  • Rust for hard
  • Nim for something different
  • C for understanding how things work

All these languages are efficient and forget about hype and popularity. Language does not matter if you have what to write with it.


Why am I writing this post? Not because I hope for something or believe in change. These are just words. I could write this at the end, but then you would be looking for answers for me while reading, and I don't need them. They won't change anything. So here it is. I don't claim to be a software development guru or a C language expert. I'm just a simple developer. Why are we looking for new technologies? Why do we want to be part of a community that is buzzing with new projects? Why do we think that this new programming language will definitely help us create something amazing and truly great and, of course, will make us rich and provide us with a comfortable old age? Why are we offered so many courses in so many programming languages and frameworks? Why do we teach what is required for companies that make money from us? Why are there a lot of conferences on banal simple things, such as *** framework or ### technology (so as not to offend anyone), and there, with a smart look, newly minted gurus tell us how important it is to be able to transfer the value to the client and how to use certain templates? Why do computers become more and more powerful, but programs continue to lag? Why, when applying for a job, do we look for a vacancy based on knowledge of a programming language, but find it only based on knowledge of certain frameworks? Is it really difficult for a professional programmer to learn a framework in a week? Why do we go into software development with the enthusiasm to create something great, but end up in a situation where we are developing some other catalog or some other digital yo-yo to make money? Reason: because we want our passion for programming, our interest, to also bring us income. Feature: we do not earn this money for ourselves, but for companies whose main goal is to quickly receive income from the software they sell. Bugs: posts like this one.
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Without any `::prelude` and some `void*` arguments. Maybe you have thoughts about it. The URL is just a sample of "why" but not "because". I have my own preference but will keep it inside my mind to not burn a tornado that will erase me from the matrix of the world. P.S.: I think C is faster, more powerful, and more elegant. I like it more than Rust. ![](https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/0b5b9d4b-b19f-4afd-8b38-537342956a28.png)
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