Indexers (like the torrent sites TPB, 1337x, etc) are not free. Some will let you get a free account, like DS, but you’re limited in downloads. They’ll give you .nzb (like .torrent) files.
Sab,nzbget, etc (like utorrent,qbitorrent) are free. They’re open source software to download the files you want utilizing the .nzb files.
Providers are paid. Usenet server, newsdemon, etc are the companies that host files for you to download. They’re basically like torrent “seeders” but it’s just one company and usually pretty fast. I don’t know of any free providers.
At minimum, you’ll have to pay for a provider. I got 80% off of one and I pay $37USD for a year. Others are ~$70CAD for a year. There is deals posted on reddit all the time so look around. You’ll never have to pay full price.
If you’re going to use Radarr or Sonarr (free, open source software) you should pay for an unlimited indexer, like DrunkenSlug, so you don’t hit the limits. I don’t know of any free unlimited ones. You can use the *arr’s with torrents but its not as good.
Do you have a particular client (sabnzd/getnzb etc) you would reccomend?
In my limited research so far (at work trying not to get caught lol) it seems like r/usenet likes eweka so I’m thinking I may go with them, they boast “longest retention” and I like obscure shit, so sounds like the move for me, unless I’m missing something which is entirely possible, would you know if that one is good?
I just signed up for DS, but I’ll be paying for it probably friday, just gonna get the unlimited, the price diff is worth it and I like to download so I’d probably hit limits. Eweka isn’t the cheapest it looks like but it seems they have a deal right now.
As for the *arrs, do I need them, or can I just like, go to DS and search “Mars Needs Women” and click “download .nzb,” then unrar it if I have to and move it to my external for permanent storage like on a torrent site? I may get into them eventually but I’d really like to not have to do that, I need to set other shit up first. Some people I’m reading comments from around here and r/usenet (can’t comment on reddit though, no active acct) seem to suggest the *arrs are maybe necessary but I can’t quite figure out if they really are or not lol.
Thanks again for helping start my journey into usenet!
Do you have a particular client (sabnzd/getnzb etc) you would reccomend?
I use Kubernetes (k3s specifically) to host
image: linuxserver/sabnzbd:latest
image: linuxserver/sonarr:latest
image: linuxserver/radarr:latest
image: crazymax/rtorrent-rutorrent:latest (in the same pod with a wireguard container to a VPN provider)
so I guess I’d recommend sabnzbd. However, I’ve heard that others are “better”. I’ve had no problems with sab.
would you know if that one is good?
So, This is where I’m not 100% sure myself. I know there are a LOT of resellers and I’m not sure how up to date this map is but it’s worth looking at. Anything on the same backbone should have the same file available.
An EU server that observes NTD is suggested as per this post. From my understanding they’re slower to remove copyright infringing files. I only download linux ISOs so this doesn’t matter to me.
“longest retention” isn’t really a big deal. It seems that the hard to find and old shit are not on any Indexer I have. Meaning there’s not NZB file for me to even try to download… I usually fall back to Torrent and jackett but there’s also bin search that can turn up files some times.
A lot of people will get a primary provider for the year then buy a “block” of data from a different provider on a different backbone. You can set the priority in sab to only use the primary unless some files are missing, then look at the backup. Personally I have a yearly sub of NewsDemon (SUPER cheap offer so I cant leave) and usenetserver. Neither of them have 100% available requested articles. YMMV.
I just signed up for DS, but I’ll be paying for it probably friday, just gonna get the unlimited, the price diff is worth it and I like to download so I’d probably hit limits. Eweka isn’t the cheapest it looks like but it seems they have a deal right now.
I have no experience with DS but everyone seems to love it. I’ll be using the free account when my other indexers do not have what I’m looking for… nzbgeek and nzbplanet have lifetime accounts and nzb.su seems to be another good one people suggest.
I just like, go to DS and search “Mars Needs Women” and click “download .nzb,” then unrar it if I have to and move it to my external for permanent storage like on a torrent site?
The process would be
go to DS
search for whatever
Download .nzb
add the .nzb to sabnzbd
wait for sabnzbd to download it from your provider.
if it was succeessful, extract files, move to where you want it.
else, find a new .nzb and add it to sab and hope that one works.
As for the *arrs, do I need them,
you don’t need the *arrs. if you do not get them, then I’d suggest staying with the free DS account. The paid is more for automation.
seem to suggest the *arrs are maybe necessary but I can’t quite figure out if they really are or not lol.
Usenet without the *arr’s is basically saying “I’ve paid for the bus but I’m going to walk”.
I do nothing. I sleep at night and go about my day. when I want to watch TV I open up Plex and go to “recently added” to see what the *arrs have got for me. I use to get my stuff manually but waking up Monday Morning to Futurama ready to watch is very nice. When someone says “have you seen XXX” I say nope but I’ll add it to my list. Open up *arr and add it. Couple hours later I have all of it. I’ll add a movie I want to see that’s not out yet. When it is, It’ll be in plex.
Happy to answer any more questions you have. Just ask away.
Thanks a lot, you’ve definitely helped me a bunch! I’ll figure out what provider I’ll go with soon and try it out!
As for the *arrs, yeah, but then I have to set up a nextcloud instance or jellyfin server too, and while I want to do all of the above I am made of neither money or time so it’s a slow rollout and I’d still like to make use of what I do have now, which is a 5tb external hdd and a 2013ish laptop with 8gb ddr3 and an i5, and a 1080p lcd from like 2009.
I think you’ve answered all the questions I have so far but I’ll lyk, thanks!
For sure! Good luck! I’d suggest not paying for DS until you hit the free limit, then you can decide if you want to pay or wait a day for 25 more downloads. To be honest, I doubt you will hit the limit but I could be wrong.
I’m not sure where nextcloud comes in but I get your point. Cheers!
The free limit is 25 api hits, 5 downloads. It doesn’t say per day, but even still if that is the case, 5 is too low. If it is per day I only need the 15€ plan though at 1,000 API 100 DL instead of the 25€ plan. I’ll be waiting until friday to get that and (likely) eweka though in any case.
Nextcloud comes in for storage/offsite access, as I am a datahoarder, I plan to figure out if I can run nextclout, jellyfin, and a small matrix server off the same server, but I have to buy a small server first, or figure out a VPS. Lotta stuff, one step at a time.
Aye, my bad. 5 Download 25API is listed in the “Daily Limits” column so you’re right.
You’re going down the same path I did awhile ago. It’s super fun when things work. Not so much when it doesn’t. If you want me to add to that list. Add Tailscale (and maybe Headscale ) to that list. I cant get over how cool it is. I’ve installed the app on my phone/Laptop and can access everything in my house while I’m away.
I have a couple raspberrypi4 and Lenovo M93p hosting all my stuff and I picked RackNerd from this list.
Alright you’ve hooked me lol. So, Radarr huh? I’m not sure if that is the thing I want or not since there are so many *arrs and it is a bit confusing, is that the one that lets me do stuff like search “venture bros” on DS and click “download episodes” or something and it downloads them and organizes them by season?
Thanks again for all your help before and on this question!
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Are these other services paid or free? Trying to figure out what the total cost is and see if I can afford it lol.
Follow up question, is it relatively safe to pay DS with non-crypto, like paypal? I assume yes but gotta ask.
Indexers (like the torrent sites TPB, 1337x, etc) are not free. Some will let you get a free account, like DS, but you’re limited in downloads. They’ll give you .nzb (like .torrent) files.
Sab,nzbget, etc (like utorrent,qbitorrent) are free. They’re open source software to download the files you want utilizing the .nzb files.
Providers are paid. Usenet server, newsdemon, etc are the companies that host files for you to download. They’re basically like torrent “seeders” but it’s just one company and usually pretty fast. I don’t know of any free providers.
At minimum, you’ll have to pay for a provider. I got 80% off of one and I pay $37USD for a year. Others are ~$70CAD for a year. There is deals posted on reddit all the time so look around. You’ll never have to pay full price.
If you’re going to use Radarr or Sonarr (free, open source software) you should pay for an unlimited indexer, like DrunkenSlug, so you don’t hit the limits. I don’t know of any free unlimited ones. You can use the *arr’s with torrents but its not as good.
Thanks for the response!
Do you have a particular client (sabnzd/getnzb etc) you would reccomend?
In my limited research so far (at work trying not to get caught lol) it seems like r/usenet likes eweka so I’m thinking I may go with them, they boast “longest retention” and I like obscure shit, so sounds like the move for me, unless I’m missing something which is entirely possible, would you know if that one is good?
I just signed up for DS, but I’ll be paying for it probably friday, just gonna get the unlimited, the price diff is worth it and I like to download so I’d probably hit limits. Eweka isn’t the cheapest it looks like but it seems they have a deal right now.
As for the *arrs, do I need them, or can I just like, go to DS and search “Mars Needs Women” and click “download .nzb,” then unrar it if I have to and move it to my external for permanent storage like on a torrent site? I may get into them eventually but I’d really like to not have to do that, I need to set other shit up first. Some people I’m reading comments from around here and r/usenet (can’t comment on reddit though, no active acct) seem to suggest the *arrs are maybe necessary but I can’t quite figure out if they really are or not lol.
Thanks again for helping start my journey into usenet!
I use Kubernetes (k3s specifically) to host
so I guess I’d recommend sabnzbd. However, I’ve heard that others are “better”. I’ve had no problems with sab.
So, This is where I’m not 100% sure myself. I know there are a LOT of resellers and I’m not sure how up to date this map is but it’s worth looking at. Anything on the same backbone should have the same file available.
An EU server that observes NTD is suggested as per this post. From my understanding they’re slower to remove copyright infringing files. I only download linux ISOs so this doesn’t matter to me.
“longest retention” isn’t really a big deal. It seems that the hard to find and old shit are not on any Indexer I have. Meaning there’s not NZB file for me to even try to download… I usually fall back to Torrent and jackett but there’s also bin search that can turn up files some times.
A lot of people will get a primary provider for the year then buy a “block” of data from a different provider on a different backbone. You can set the priority in sab to only use the primary unless some files are missing, then look at the backup. Personally I have a yearly sub of NewsDemon (SUPER cheap offer so I cant leave) and usenetserver. Neither of them have 100% available requested articles. YMMV.
I have no experience with DS but everyone seems to love it. I’ll be using the free account when my other indexers do not have what I’m looking for… nzbgeek and nzbplanet have lifetime accounts and nzb.su seems to be another good one people suggest.
The process would be
you don’t need the *arrs. if you do not get them, then I’d suggest staying with the free DS account. The paid is more for automation.
Usenet without the *arr’s is basically saying “I’ve paid for the bus but I’m going to walk”.
I do nothing. I sleep at night and go about my day. when I want to watch TV I open up Plex and go to “recently added” to see what the *arrs have got for me. I use to get my stuff manually but waking up Monday Morning to Futurama ready to watch is very nice. When someone says “have you seen XXX” I say nope but I’ll add it to my list. Open up *arr and add it. Couple hours later I have all of it. I’ll add a movie I want to see that’s not out yet. When it is, It’ll be in plex.
Happy to answer any more questions you have. Just ask away.
Thanks a lot, you’ve definitely helped me a bunch! I’ll figure out what provider I’ll go with soon and try it out!
As for the *arrs, yeah, but then I have to set up a nextcloud instance or jellyfin server too, and while I want to do all of the above I am made of neither money or time so it’s a slow rollout and I’d still like to make use of what I do have now, which is a 5tb external hdd and a 2013ish laptop with 8gb ddr3 and an i5, and a 1080p lcd from like 2009.
I think you’ve answered all the questions I have so far but I’ll lyk, thanks!
For sure! Good luck! I’d suggest not paying for DS until you hit the free limit, then you can decide if you want to pay or wait a day for 25 more downloads. To be honest, I doubt you will hit the limit but I could be wrong.
I’m not sure where nextcloud comes in but I get your point. Cheers!
The free limit is 25 api hits, 5 downloads. It doesn’t say per day, but even still if that is the case, 5 is too low. If it is per day I only need the 15€ plan though at 1,000 API 100 DL instead of the 25€ plan. I’ll be waiting until friday to get that and (likely) eweka though in any case.
Nextcloud comes in for storage/offsite access, as I am a datahoarder, I plan to figure out if I can run nextclout, jellyfin, and a small matrix server off the same server, but I have to buy a small server first, or figure out a VPS. Lotta stuff, one step at a time.
Aye, my bad. 5 Download 25API is listed in the “Daily Limits” column so you’re right.
You’re going down the same path I did awhile ago. It’s super fun when things work. Not so much when it doesn’t. If you want me to add to that list. Add Tailscale (and maybe Headscale ) to that list. I cant get over how cool it is. I’ve installed the app on my phone/Laptop and can access everything in my house while I’m away.
I have a couple raspberrypi4 and Lenovo M93p hosting all my stuff and I picked RackNerd from this list.
Alright you’ve hooked me lol. So, Radarr huh? I’m not sure if that is the thing I want or not since there are so many *arrs and it is a bit confusing, is that the one that lets me do stuff like search “venture bros” on DS and click “download episodes” or something and it downloads them and organizes them by season?
Thanks again for all your help before and on this question!
Thanks for all the advice, I’ve saved this comment for later! That does sound pretty cool!