TOTP function is what really made it happen. It brings me so much joy to have one, self hosted service to do everything login related compared to using Authy too. I was way too invested in Authy which was never comfortable for me. I now found peace.
It still defends against one failure mode (the website gets hacked but you’re ok) but yeah, obviously if you get hacked and the hacker knows how to get your vault out then you’re 100% screwed.
My suggestion is always hardware 2FA, even though it’s not as mature as the other systems. Personally I have two Yubikeys (in case one breaks/gets lost) but it does mean that I need to add TOTPs to both of them each time I add a new 2FA.
I’m fairly certain hardware based 2fa has been around since the early 90s maybe even earlier. It’s not the maturity that’s the issue, as I’m fairly certain its significantly older than application based, but that it’s extremely inconvenient for the user to have to buy a physical key and keep it safe
It is discouraged but with a very strong non-reused primary password for your home instance, you’d be hard pressed to have problems with hackers even if they dump your database. It’s still a better idea to use a hardware key but that’s understandably annoying to carry/use.
One thing you could do is setup a second vaultwarden instance running on a separate machine ideally on a separate network and keep only TOTP connections on it, with its own backups and storage. But that is probably just as annoying.
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TOTP function is what really made it happen. It brings me so much joy to have one, self hosted service to do everything login related compared to using Authy too. I was way too invested in Authy which was never comfortable for me. I now found peace.
Is having your passwords and TOTP in one place recommended? I would’ve thought that having both separate would be more secure.
It still defends against one failure mode (the website gets hacked but you’re ok) but yeah, obviously if you get hacked and the hacker knows how to get your vault out then you’re 100% screwed.
My suggestion is always hardware 2FA, even though it’s not as mature as the other systems. Personally I have two Yubikeys (in case one breaks/gets lost) but it does mean that I need to add TOTPs to both of them each time I add a new 2FA.
I’m fairly certain hardware based 2fa has been around since the early 90s maybe even earlier. It’s not the maturity that’s the issue, as I’m fairly certain its significantly older than application based, but that it’s extremely inconvenient for the user to have to buy a physical key and keep it safe
It is discouraged but with a very strong non-reused primary password for your home instance, you’d be hard pressed to have problems with hackers even if they dump your database. It’s still a better idea to use a hardware key but that’s understandably annoying to carry/use.
One thing you could do is setup a second vaultwarden instance running on a separate machine ideally on a separate network and keep only TOTP connections on it, with its own backups and storage. But that is probably just as annoying.