I think with MS pushing edge and bing as suggest defaults some less tech savvy folks just use it. I think change is slow but people are looking for selfhosted solutions to avoid the “pray I don’t alter the deal” situations, and anonymous google free search such as whoogle. You also have phone OS makers building microG option and aurora store so you can get playstore apps without being forced into a google (tracking) account.
Maybe those will not become mainstream, but we will see.
I’ll believe progress when anyone in my family even knows these things are an option. I’m a tech person and a fairly early adopter of tech things and I just learned whoogle was a thing this week and I don’t know anything about it besides it is a search engine.
Self hosted is great and all, but user testing my lemmy instance with non-technical and basically online people has been painful. I don’t doubt that eventually people like my sister will get to these options, but will they so it before these new organizations run out of money? That is the part I don’t think is likely. We are like 5 years ouylt before the masses get what federation is and see the light of self-hosting. Not many organizations have that kind of savings.
We will see where it all goes. maybe you don’t recall Dogpile? used to be huge as a search engine because it hit every other search engine and compiled the results. But google was giving better results so everyone jumped on that, but now google tries to only give you ad based results when possible, so google has become less useful as an info search engine. ChatGPT actually gives better concrete info when searching a topic, so I find myself not using google now.
Bing now has ChatGPT ChatGPT built in so people mat find that more appealing, especially because MS almost forces it on you.
I’m old enough to remember dogpile. I learned about Google from an AOL manual. I so remember that I learned about it in middle school and it wasn’t commonly used until a few years later. And not dominant until I was well into college. People hated it I remember. I was the weirdo who fell in love immediately.
That’s my point. It’s not about if people will switch from Google. It’s about if news companies can stand the revenue loss for as long as that takes and it’ll take 2 years being extremely absurdly optimistic. Likely it’ll be 5 or more.
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I think with MS pushing edge and bing as suggest defaults some less tech savvy folks just use it. I think change is slow but people are looking for selfhosted solutions to avoid the “pray I don’t alter the deal” situations, and anonymous google free search such as whoogle. You also have phone OS makers building microG option and aurora store so you can get playstore apps without being forced into a google (tracking) account. Maybe those will not become mainstream, but we will see.
I’ll believe progress when anyone in my family even knows these things are an option. I’m a tech person and a fairly early adopter of tech things and I just learned whoogle was a thing this week and I don’t know anything about it besides it is a search engine.
Self hosted is great and all, but user testing my lemmy instance with non-technical and basically online people has been painful. I don’t doubt that eventually people like my sister will get to these options, but will they so it before these new organizations run out of money? That is the part I don’t think is likely. We are like 5 years ouylt before the masses get what federation is and see the light of self-hosting. Not many organizations have that kind of savings.
We will see where it all goes. maybe you don’t recall Dogpile? used to be huge as a search engine because it hit every other search engine and compiled the results. But google was giving better results so everyone jumped on that, but now google tries to only give you ad based results when possible, so google has become less useful as an info search engine. ChatGPT actually gives better concrete info when searching a topic, so I find myself not using google now. Bing now has ChatGPT ChatGPT built in so people mat find that more appealing, especially because MS almost forces it on you.
I’m old enough to remember dogpile. I learned about Google from an AOL manual. I so remember that I learned about it in middle school and it wasn’t commonly used until a few years later. And not dominant until I was well into college. People hated it I remember. I was the weirdo who fell in love immediately.
That’s my point. It’s not about if people will switch from Google. It’s about if news companies can stand the revenue loss for as long as that takes and it’ll take 2 years being extremely absurdly optimistic. Likely it’ll be 5 or more.
Well they were already losing, isn’t that why the change was being made to ad a revenue stream