Appreciate you pointing out those examples - while one could argue errors in judgement, going with what one knows allows for getting stuff done NOW.

Have to say, FB and G examples resonate most with me because while Java is hardly “rapid,” given a well-defined objective I can bang out PHP or Python to accomplish it quickly, and then iterate efficiently.

That was doable long before the idea of iterating quickly / failing big / etc entered the public consciousness. Just not in Java…

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Just not in Java…

I think you’re biased against Java. Amazon was started in C/C++ and Java J2EE during times when to configure a webserver required writing like 300 lines of XML just to handle cookies, browser cache and a login page. Until recently BMW had their own JRE implementation. It’s not a secret that simcards, including these in Tesla cars run JavaCard too, even government issues sim cards in EU have to run Java Card, not C++. Everything was always fine with Java until ECMA Script appeared and made people iterate on software versions faster. New programming languages and team organisation methodologies left some programming languages in the dark, but this included C# too. All are quickly catching up. If Java was so bad, it wouldn’t be here with us today, like Perl.

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