Stuff like this is the expansion of the state the Lenin railed so strongly against.
Why not just have the beeper let the nurse know? Do you think the nurses aren’t washing their hands intentionally? Only report it if they’re like, constantly not doing it! The goal here is surveillance and punishment not improved sanitation
As a healthcare worker, the nurses are absolutely not washing their hands intentionally. You’d be surprised how many healthcare workers don’t believe in science based medicine.
Ok, so I get the “good intentions” of the procedures - sanitary, patient health and wellbeing, etc - sounds good on paper. It yeah, you’re right that it’s demoralizing and easily causes burnout. I’ve had jobs where management absolutely didn’t trust their employees to do the right thing. They even went so far as to herd us into a janitors closet and then walk us to our desks (floating desk arrangements at a call center) like we were children.
The managers were told to walk up and down the rows and look for people not doing their job and fire them. We were told if we weren’t on active calls, we were to sit in our chairs with our hands over the keyboard in ready position for the next call. No talking; no reading books; no nothing. I’m sure somewhere on paper it sounded like a good idea. But it was the absolute most toxic environment I’ve personally been in.
Fucking tech solutions to a manager problem. The manager should care about the metrics of wait time and client satisfaction.
If waits are low and satisfaction is high. Then who gives fuck all about what techs do in between calls.
Metrics like calls per tech or average length of calls could be used to better understand tech efficiency. Or even rings before pickup. A good pbx can help ensure calls are relatively equally spread between techs. This helps keep one tech from over working for another slacking off. You can have utilization goals so that you aren’t under or over staffed (I’m of the opinion that a techs utilization should be roughly 75-80% and they should have downtime in their shifts to prevent burnout.)
It’s stupid, inhumane, and impossible to expect an employee to track, bill, and work 100% of their shift.
I lost the only job I have ever left involuntarily on a helpdesk for a small system partly because of the tracking tools they used
I was top in the team by tickets closed. The person they kept was top by time per call (spent the longest time on each call/worst at efficiently fixing callers’ issues)
Tech tools are not a solution for incompetent management
If so many people weren’t leaving the field entirely due this issue (the chief complaint ALWAYS being under-staffing / low nurse-to-patient ratios, THEN pay), there would be plenty of nurses to go around
I think both can be true.
From expenses point of view, Isn’t under-staffing almost the same thing as low pay? What’s preventing hospital administrators from hiring more nurses? If it’s just money, then I don’t think the complaint of under-staffing all that different from the complaint of low pay; I suspect it’s even affected by sort of preference (some nurses would prefer working more for better pay, others would prefer sharing the workload.)
Of course from administration / governance point of view it boils down to money, what I’m saying is that I find it unlikely is that it’s “just hire more nurses”. It’s also doctors, other staff, etc. It’s more likely the whole system.
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Stuff like this is the expansion of the state the Lenin railed so strongly against.
Why not just have the beeper let the nurse know? Do you think the nurses aren’t washing their hands intentionally? Only report it if they’re like, constantly not doing it! The goal here is surveillance and punishment not improved sanitation
As a healthcare worker, the nurses are absolutely not washing their hands intentionally. You’d be surprised how many healthcare workers don’t believe in science based medicine.
Ok, so I get the “good intentions” of the procedures - sanitary, patient health and wellbeing, etc - sounds good on paper. It yeah, you’re right that it’s demoralizing and easily causes burnout. I’ve had jobs where management absolutely didn’t trust their employees to do the right thing. They even went so far as to herd us into a janitors closet and then walk us to our desks (floating desk arrangements at a call center) like we were children.
The managers were told to walk up and down the rows and look for people not doing their job and fire them. We were told if we weren’t on active calls, we were to sit in our chairs with our hands over the keyboard in ready position for the next call. No talking; no reading books; no nothing. I’m sure somewhere on paper it sounded like a good idea. But it was the absolute most toxic environment I’ve personally been in.
Anyway, y’all should unionize.
I bet scam call center have a better working environment that this.
Fucking tech solutions to a manager problem. The manager should care about the metrics of wait time and client satisfaction.
If waits are low and satisfaction is high. Then who gives fuck all about what techs do in between calls.
Metrics like calls per tech or average length of calls could be used to better understand tech efficiency. Or even rings before pickup. A good pbx can help ensure calls are relatively equally spread between techs. This helps keep one tech from over working for another slacking off. You can have utilization goals so that you aren’t under or over staffed (I’m of the opinion that a techs utilization should be roughly 75-80% and they should have downtime in their shifts to prevent burnout.)
It’s stupid, inhumane, and impossible to expect an employee to track, bill, and work 100% of their shift.
I lost the only job I have ever left involuntarily on a helpdesk for a small system partly because of the tracking tools they used
I was top in the team by tickets closed. The person they kept was top by time per call (spent the longest time on each call/worst at efficiently fixing callers’ issues)
Tech tools are not a solution for incompetent management
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Look, I get your point, but it’s not like nurses grow on trees. (Especially good nurses.)
Things need fixing, but they need fixing far earlier than that.
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I think both can be true.
From expenses point of view, Isn’t under-staffing almost the same thing as low pay? What’s preventing hospital administrators from hiring more nurses? If it’s just money, then I don’t think the complaint of under-staffing all that different from the complaint of low pay; I suspect it’s even affected by sort of preference (some nurses would prefer working more for better pay, others would prefer sharing the workload.)
Of course from administration / governance point of view it boils down to money, what I’m saying is that I find it unlikely is that it’s “just hire more nurses”. It’s also doctors, other staff, etc. It’s more likely the whole system.