I have Mastodon running on a VPS running Debian 11. Now I would like to add a Lemmy instance on the same server. I tried using the from scratch method from Lemmy documentation, but ran into errors that likely stemmed from minor version incompatibilities of the dependencies. I tried using the Lemmy easy deploy script but it wants to bind all traffic on port 443 for Lemmy which would break my Mastodon install. Has anyone managed to get Lemmy and Mastodon running on the same box, and if so, can you share any details of your setup?
I tried kbin and don’t really understand it to be honest. I looked at their documentation and it doesn’t really explain much other than how to create an account on an instance.
Going to kbin.social and creating an account didn’t get me much farther. I don’t undrestand how to “subscribe” to (for example) the lemmy communities I follow her, or the users I follow on mastodon. And the “magazines” thing I really don’t get.
Nope don’t feel bad - it’s totally understandable. Kbin is new, so the documentation is lacking.
Almost all content on Kbin, including users, has a follow / subscribe button in the sidebar beneath the magazine or user description. There’s also a block button. These buttons can be used on almost all Kbin content, so it’s very powerful - after spending about a week adding subs, my Kbin feed is far more active than Reddit was, even at its height.
Kbin breaks down your content into Magazines, Microblogs, and Threads. Magazines are synonymous with Communities on Lemmy, or subreddits on reddit. Microblogs are where the Mastodon Toots go, and how you interact with instances based on that architecture. Threads are just like posts on reddit, and can be text only, a link, a pic, or a video (although it seems video is still under development).
The best place to start getting subscriptions are in the magazines section:
…which lists all of the currently federated communities. Putting a domain search into the search bar will bring up all magazines in the instance on that domain:
This domain searching is extremely powerful, especially when you use the domain section (which can be hard to find) - you can get a breakdown of any domain currently federated on kbin by using the following link:
…where you’d put the domain you’re interested in in place of ‘lemmy.world’. You can then subscribe to the entire instance through that feed, or block it f you’d like. This also works for standard domains as well:
I did find one glaring issue on kbin that will keep me from using it in the future.
I had apparently opened an account whoknowswhen, and figured I’d remove it and start again. When I went to delete the account, it didn’t actually delete it, instead it keeps me logged in and just put this at the top >Your request to delete the account has been submitted.
That seems like a bit of an issue, as I shouldn’t have to wait for it to be submitted (which also appears to mean approved) before deleting an account. Until that’s fixed, I’ll stick with lemmy and mastodon separately.
The developer of kbin, @ernest, has said that automated processing of account deletion requests is on the roadmap but currently it’s a manual process.
As you can imagine, for a piece of software that two months ago was in alpha status with fewer than 100 regular users and then suddenly became one of the most-used systems on the Fediverse, there are still a lot of rough edges to be cleaned up.
jsyk, with how ActivityPub works changing the software that’s running from under it will break federation with you in all sorts of subtle ways. When you pick a thing to run under a domain you’re effectively locked into running that software under that domain. And of course there is some cryptographic verification as well so you change the keys (or you wipe or forget to back up the database) you may as well burn that domain from federating ever again.
Thanks for pointing that out! In this case I am using subdomains so hopefully I won’t run into any issues with that. I recently bought fdr8.us with the intention of creating subdomains under it for my federated projects. Mastodon.fdr8.us and Lemmy.fdr8.us are now live. If I do a kbin instance it will probably follow the same format.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Kinda tangential, but have you tried Kbin? Handles both Mastodon and Lemmy really well from a user standpoint.
I tried kbin and don’t really understand it to be honest. I looked at their documentation and it doesn’t really explain much other than how to create an account on an instance.
Going to kbin.social and creating an account didn’t get me much farther. I don’t undrestand how to “subscribe” to (for example) the lemmy communities I follow her, or the users I follow on mastodon. And the “magazines” thing I really don’t get.
Maybe I’m too dumb for it or something.
Nope don’t feel bad - it’s totally understandable. Kbin is new, so the documentation is lacking.
Almost all content on Kbin, including users, has a follow / subscribe button in the sidebar beneath the magazine or user description. There’s also a block button. These buttons can be used on almost all Kbin content, so it’s very powerful - after spending about a week adding subs, my Kbin feed is far more active than Reddit was, even at its height.
Kbin breaks down your content into Magazines, Microblogs, and Threads. Magazines are synonymous with Communities on Lemmy, or subreddits on reddit. Microblogs are where the Mastodon Toots go, and how you interact with instances based on that architecture. Threads are just like posts on reddit, and can be text only, a link, a pic, or a video (although it seems video is still under development).
The best place to start getting subscriptions are in the magazines section:
https://kbin.social/magazines
…which lists all of the currently federated communities. Putting a domain search into the search bar will bring up all magazines in the instance on that domain:
https://kbin.social/magazines?q=lemmy.world
This domain searching is extremely powerful, especially when you use the domain section (which can be hard to find) - you can get a breakdown of any domain currently federated on kbin by using the following link:
https://kbin.social/d/lemmy.world
…where you’d put the domain you’re interested in in place of ‘lemmy.world’. You can then subscribe to the entire instance through that feed, or block it f you’d like. This also works for standard domains as well:
https://kbin.social/d/imgur.com
So it will scan all content and links for that domain that’s federated on kbin.social.
Tag searching is also another undocumented gem, as it searches across both Mastodon and Lemmy instances for relevant tags:
https://kbin.social/t/cat
https://kbin.social/t/dog
There are already some really nice greasemonkey add-ons that I highly recommend here that help make the navigational experience friendlier.
I hope that helps - I see a lot of potential in this platform, and with a bit of polishing I think it’s a better app than Reddit or Twitter ever were.
Thank you for that.
I did find one glaring issue on kbin that will keep me from using it in the future.
I had apparently opened an account whoknowswhen, and figured I’d remove it and start again. When I went to delete the account, it didn’t actually delete it, instead it keeps me logged in and just put this at the top >Your request to delete the account has been submitted.
That seems like a bit of an issue, as I shouldn’t have to wait for it to be submitted (which also appears to mean approved) before deleting an account. Until that’s fixed, I’ll stick with lemmy and mastodon separately.
The developer of kbin, @ernest, has said that automated processing of account deletion requests is on the roadmap but currently it’s a manual process.
As you can imagine, for a piece of software that two months ago was in alpha status with fewer than 100 regular users and then suddenly became one of the most-used systems on the Fediverse, there are still a lot of rough edges to be cleaned up.
Interesting point. I hadn’t given that any consideration but if my Mastodon/Lemmy plans don’t work out I might give it a shot.
jsyk, with how ActivityPub works changing the software that’s running from under it will break federation with you in all sorts of subtle ways. When you pick a thing to run under a domain you’re effectively locked into running that software under that domain. And of course there is some cryptographic verification as well so you change the keys (or you wipe or forget to back up the database) you may as well burn that domain from federating ever again.
Thanks for pointing that out! In this case I am using subdomains so hopefully I won’t run into any issues with that. I recently bought fdr8.us with the intention of creating subdomains under it for my federated projects. Mastodon.fdr8.us and Lemmy.fdr8.us are now live. If I do a kbin instance it will probably follow the same format.