I use a Jellyfin server to host my own movies and trying to think about doing the same about music. The problem is that I watch roughly one movie a week but a lot more of music (all day long). For now I’m mainly using sp0tify but the UI is worse and worse, constantly asking for more money.
I don’t care much about my playlists but I’d need to start a list of the groups I listen to, probably around 200/300 ones on “random”.
I’d be curious how you started you transition / technical one too.
Thanks
Edit: wow Thanks a lot for the great advices. I already have a tailscale + Jellyfin so I will probably start there with symfonium. For the download I will give soulseek a go.
Why not just spin up Syncthing, sync your music between your phone and server, and then use one of the countless good local music players.
You own the music anyway, you have a limited library, and there is 0 delay having your music locally along with no buffering, offline access, and it will always be at max quality.
(Of course, not realistic if you have 500GB of music and no SD card slot in your phone)
A 2.5" SSD and a sata to USB cable, Mullvad and torrents-csv. I don’t have time for all that overhead, maintenance on that stuff is worse than the time you supposedly save by automating everything. I used to do the deluge seedbox dav server thing, and I had to disassemble it for a reason and found my life got easier after that. Every now and then I just back what I’ve downloaded recently up to the drive.
I do want to run a seedbox again, but just to archive and make available certain things that need to stay available. All the jellyfin owncloud and all that stuff is not worth it to me.
I use Jellyfin for movies and shows but sub to a streaming service for music. To me, it’s worth the monthly cost to put millions of songs at my reach all with impeccable quality. The convenience alone not withstanding. But music is super important to me and I don’t go a day without it. I haven’t seen anything close to that if you pirate.
I ripped my old CDs way back in like 2003 and didn’t join a streaming service till 2019. I’ve added more bangers and almost doubled my collection since then.
I kind of count my blessings as to only having to sub to that service. I have friends that pay $300 a month for Netflix, Diznee+, etc. And here I am getting by on $6 a month. Totally not mad.
I use Bandcamp and redacted to fill my NAS, which runs Plex with a lifetime Plex Pass. For playback I use PlexAmp on Windows, iOS, and macOS. Very pleased with the radio / shuffle functions, sometimes it’ll absolutely nail a beat- and key-matched cross fade. Great for local library discovery.
My music library has continuity all the way back to 2000, I’ve still got a few vintage Napster MP3s from the 56k days.
Yeah, I’m sure Finamp and the rest of the Jellyfin options people are recommending do the trick for most people, but I’m really happy with PlexAmp.
It also has Chromecast capability and is to my knowledge the only self-hosted option that does so. Really handy for casting to speaker systems, though I’m guessing many people just use Bluetooth for most off-device playback.
I’ve still got a few vintage Napster MP3s from the 56k days.
Damn, I envy you. I lost all my digital music from those days to disk rot and a hard drive failure. Wish someone told me back then that CD-R was not a good backup medium. Or that I had checked on the disks before I needed them. Live and learn.
I’m still using MPD+ncmpcpp. For remote access, I use Wireguard and stream via HTTP on VLC. It’s amazingly fast and lightweight (26MB RAM for 30K+ songs).
MALP also works on Android, might be better with no physical keyboard (now supports streaming also).
I use Jellyfin to stream both video as well as audio. Media is stored on my NAS via a samba share.
Much like yourself, I’m more frequently streaming music. The default apps aren’t great for music (and horrid for audio books) but there are music specific apps for most iOS, Android, and most PC OSs. Can’t remember what app I use on Linux (don’t use it much) but I use FinAmp on iOS a lot.
Navidrome is probably a better self hosted music service , but I didn’t see the point when Jellyfin plus FinAmp and met my streaming audio needs.
As for where I got my music collection, I’m an old fart whose music collection predates digital music. Early stuff was ripped from whatever format it was on to digital a while ago. Nowadays I tend to buy CDs and rip them to flac or buy digital from Band Camp or Amazon.
I haven’t seen the need since iTunes and Amazon Music came around, but if you wanted to go sailing you can find popular releases and discographies of popular artists on public torrent sites easily enough. There are also several programs available that can take a Spotify playlist and automatically download the music from YouTube.
While you didn’t ask about audio books, it might help someone else. While I can access my audiobook collection from Jellyfin, it is so bad at audiobooks that that I don’t bother. For audiobooks I use a service called AudioBookshelf. Great for podcasts as well. The audiobooks themselves I generally buy from Audible and then use Libation to strip the DRM.
I use either telegram or Bandcamp to get stuff, then beets.io to manage my library, Jellyfin is then pointed to that folder and I mainly use Symfonium to play my music on mobile.
In the past I used airsonic. It has the best support for different music files and good support for albums ripped as single track, like most classical releases.
The problem with airsonic and its protocol is the lack of good android clients.
If you need to listen through the phone for most of the time, go with jellyfin + finamp. Otherwise try airsonic + its web ui.
Well, I’ve maintained my music collection from the olden days, and acquire new music as I discover I like it. I mostly have trash vaporwave tastes so I actually buy most of my music cheaply on bandcamp. My music collection isn’t massive like some peoples, but it’s a decent amount of GB. Mostly mp3, I’m not fancy enough for FLAC.
As for hosting the music, check out Navidrome. It’s a great subsonic compatible service that can run on your OS of choice. I use Symfonium on Android to access the library. It supports playlist syncing, offline caching, etc. etc.
I’ve had navidrome setup for a while, but could never find a really good client for my android phone… thanks for the Symfonium link, it looks great. Will definitely give it a go.
I have about 1TB of music, and I’m listening to music all the time. My go-to has been a Jellyfin server with either the desktop client or Finamp on my phone. I used to use Gelli on my phone, but it stopped working a few months ago
How to aquire: Normal WWW, SLSK, Torrent
How to organize: Musicbrainz, Lidarr
How to play: Phone: Jellyfin or FinAmp, PC: Jellyfin Media Player or Jellyfin WebUI
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Why not just spin up Syncthing, sync your music between your phone and server, and then use one of the countless good local music players.
You own the music anyway, you have a limited library, and there is 0 delay having your music locally along with no buffering, offline access, and it will always be at max quality.
(Of course, not realistic if you have 500GB of music and no SD card slot in your phone)
That’s the problem right there. SD card storage is so cheap, but the manufacturers don’t include a slot for it.
A 2.5" SSD and a sata to USB cable, Mullvad and torrents-csv. I don’t have time for all that overhead, maintenance on that stuff is worse than the time you supposedly save by automating everything. I used to do the deluge seedbox dav server thing, and I had to disassemble it for a reason and found my life got easier after that. Every now and then I just back what I’ve downloaded recently up to the drive.
I do want to run a seedbox again, but just to archive and make available certain things that need to stay available. All the jellyfin owncloud and all that stuff is not worth it to me.
I’m using NextCloud Music 🎶
I use Jellyfin for movies and shows but sub to a streaming service for music. To me, it’s worth the monthly cost to put millions of songs at my reach all with impeccable quality. The convenience alone not withstanding. But music is super important to me and I don’t go a day without it. I haven’t seen anything close to that if you pirate.
I ripped my old CDs way back in like 2003 and didn’t join a streaming service till 2019. I’ve added more bangers and almost doubled my collection since then.
I kind of count my blessings as to only having to sub to that service. I have friends that pay $300 a month for Netflix, Diznee+, etc. And here I am getting by on $6 a month. Totally not mad.
I use Bandcamp and redacted to fill my NAS, which runs Plex with a lifetime Plex Pass. For playback I use PlexAmp on Windows, iOS, and macOS. Very pleased with the radio / shuffle functions, sometimes it’ll absolutely nail a beat- and key-matched cross fade. Great for local library discovery.
My music library has continuity all the way back to 2000, I’ve still got a few vintage Napster MP3s from the 56k days.
Yeah, I’m sure Finamp and the rest of the Jellyfin options people are recommending do the trick for most people, but I’m really happy with PlexAmp.
It also has Chromecast capability and is to my knowledge the only self-hosted option that does so. Really handy for casting to speaker systems, though I’m guessing many people just use Bluetooth for most off-device playback.
Damn, I envy you. I lost all my digital music from those days to disk rot and a hard drive failure. Wish someone told me back then that CD-R was not a good backup medium. Or that I had checked on the disks before I needed them. Live and learn.
I’m still using MPD+ncmpcpp. For remote access, I use Wireguard and stream via HTTP on VLC. It’s amazingly fast and lightweight (26MB RAM for 30K+ songs).
MALP also works on Android, might be better with no physical keyboard (now supports streaming also).
I use Jellyfin to stream both video as well as audio. Media is stored on my NAS via a samba share.
Much like yourself, I’m more frequently streaming music. The default apps aren’t great for music (and horrid for audio books) but there are music specific apps for most iOS, Android, and most PC OSs. Can’t remember what app I use on Linux (don’t use it much) but I use FinAmp on iOS a lot.
Navidrome is probably a better self hosted music service , but I didn’t see the point when Jellyfin plus FinAmp and met my streaming audio needs.
As for where I got my music collection, I’m an old fart whose music collection predates digital music. Early stuff was ripped from whatever format it was on to digital a while ago. Nowadays I tend to buy CDs and rip them to flac or buy digital from Band Camp or Amazon.
I haven’t seen the need since iTunes and Amazon Music came around, but if you wanted to go sailing you can find popular releases and discographies of popular artists on public torrent sites easily enough. There are also several programs available that can take a Spotify playlist and automatically download the music from YouTube.
While you didn’t ask about audio books, it might help someone else. While I can access my audiobook collection from Jellyfin, it is so bad at audiobooks that that I don’t bother. For audiobooks I use a service called AudioBookshelf. Great for podcasts as well. The audiobooks themselves I generally buy from Audible and then use Libation to strip the DRM.
I use either telegram or Bandcamp to get stuff, then beets.io to manage my library, Jellyfin is then pointed to that folder and I mainly use Symfonium to play my music on mobile.
In the past I used airsonic. It has the best support for different music files and good support for albums ripped as single track, like most classical releases.
The problem with airsonic and its protocol is the lack of good android clients.
If you need to listen through the phone for most of the time, go with jellyfin + finamp. Otherwise try airsonic + its web ui.
For music acquisition:
I also use the Jellyfin+Symfonium combo. There is also Finamp as the free and open source option. And Feishin on desktop.
I can highly recommend symfonium as a front end for a jellyfin music library on android, it’s super clean and has tons of nice features.
Well, I’ve maintained my music collection from the olden days, and acquire new music as I discover I like it. I mostly have trash vaporwave tastes so I actually buy most of my music cheaply on bandcamp. My music collection isn’t massive like some peoples, but it’s a decent amount of GB. Mostly mp3, I’m not fancy enough for FLAC.
As for hosting the music, check out Navidrome. It’s a great subsonic compatible service that can run on your OS of choice. I use Symfonium on Android to access the library. It supports playlist syncing, offline caching, etc. etc.
I had a good collection back in the days, but i’ve lost track of my old server when moving. I will need to search how to even organize all this :'(
Thanks a lot for the recommandations <3
For those who don’t know, “trash vaporwave” is a sub-sub genre made of ASMR sounds of garbage trucks with mallsoft music in the background.
Another vote for the Navidrome+Symfonium combination.
I’m still sad that the Tempo development seems to have stalled.
I’ve had navidrome setup for a while, but could never find a really good client for my android phone… thanks for the Symfonium link, it looks great. Will definitely give it a go.
I also use Navidrome + Symfonium. It’s a great combo.
I have about 1TB of music, and I’m listening to music all the time. My go-to has been a Jellyfin server with either the desktop client or Finamp on my phone. I used to use Gelli on my phone, but it stopped working a few months ago
You already have Jellyfin, maybe test out adding a music library and using Finamp or Fintunes to access it?
Did you mean “Fintunes”?
Ah yes, thanks, edited. Using a new keyboard and the autocorrect is still learning.
How to aquire: Normal WWW, SLSK, Torrent
How to organize: Musicbrainz, Lidarr
How to play: Phone: Jellyfin or FinAmp, PC: Jellyfin Media Player or Jellyfin WebUI
Feishin is also a good player for desktop