The only people in the chat seem to be the most racist, homophobic, sexist scumbags. It’s like walking into a 4chan convention… is that you guys? Why is it as soon as anonymity is there, the fucking assholes come out?
If this is the general spirit of piracy, I don’t know if I’m interested
Welcome to chatrooms, they were always like this its just a lost phenomenon to most people especially those that didn’t grow up with them. Ignore and move on is pretty standard practice, I’m on slskd and I’ve only gotten DMs not sure if it even has the chat enabled by default
My problem with Soulseek is that it only really has music. That’s it. I’m more interested in stuff for retro game systems. Not just the stuff that’s listed in No-Intro or some GoodSet, you can find those anywhere. I’m trying to find a site that has stuff that isn’t just the same sets you see everywhere. But I can’t find one.
You’ve encountered Gabriel’s Greater Internet Dickwad Phenomenon - basically, if you take an average person and remove accountability for their actions, a significant subset of them will turn out to be total dickwads. Much like how lactic acid bacteria will render their environment acidic so that other bacteria cannot thrive, it takes a shockingly small percentage of total dickwads to render an environment so toxic to regular people that the only people who thrive there are other dickwads.
The fact is that the majority of the community isn’t like that, but because we exist at the fringes due to the semilegitimate nature of piracy there often isn’t a lot of effort to keeping the community decent. Just do what most of us do, download and move on.
Because why would I waste my time shouting at dickwads in some filthy corner of the internet, when I can just go to a space where they’re not welcome? It’s definitely better overall to stand up and fight but the fight never ends and it’s exhausting. I definitely understand anyone who just wouldn’t bother.
It’s only ruined if you actually want to engage in the chat. Use it for what it’s for, and come get your community on Lemmy. Beehaw.org in particular is a smaller, more heavily moderated instance that might be the kind of space you’re looking for. I keep an account there and on lemm.ee specifically so I can choose how much “freedom” I’d like to be exposed to depending on how I feel.
I was referring to the Nicotine+ chat being ruined. I’m already on Beehaw, though it’s not really about piracy-related stuff. It’s nice though.
I’m not sure how much I’d even use Nicotine+, it doesn’t have a lot of what I’m looking for. Just music. I tend to look for retro game stuff. I have all the No-Intro sets for older systems so I don’t need stuff that’s in those (except the private entries). It’s hard to find stuff that isn’t just in any No-Intro, GoodTools, or TOSEC set, unfortunately. I might use it to share stuff. Maybe eMule as well? I don’t know. shrug
Lots of crossover between 4chan and the general piracy community. First place I actually heard about soulseek was on the 4chan music board. I don’t really go there anymore. So yeah, its 4channers thinking they’re in good company.
it’s pretty widely known that its a toxic hellscape there, i’ve typically had great interactions with users in dm’s but the chatrooms have become overrun with toxicity and fascists over the past decade, it’s absolutely not representative of the online music community which is largely left leaning, even on p2p and piracy platforms
Yeah I would just stay clear of the chat. There’s plenty of normal people on the network, it’s just they don’t use the chat either. I’ve met some cool folks through DM’s though.
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I have a somewhat large share on Soulseek. It’s fun to occasionally go through the chat rooms and ban all the blatant racists and homophobes.
Touch grass.
Welcome to chatrooms, they were always like this its just a lost phenomenon to most people especially those that didn’t grow up with them. Ignore and move on is pretty standard practice, I’m on slskd and I’ve only gotten DMs not sure if it even has the chat enabled by default
My philosophy is that slsk is for the downloads, not the conversation.
My problem with Soulseek is that it only really has music. That’s it. I’m more interested in stuff for retro game systems. Not just the stuff that’s listed in No-Intro or some GoodSet, you can find those anywhere. I’m trying to find a site that has stuff that isn’t just the same sets you see everywhere. But I can’t find one.
why would you use soulseek for chat
Nobody with sense uses the main Nicotine room.
You’ve encountered Gabriel’s Greater Internet Dickwad Phenomenon - basically, if you take an average person and remove accountability for their actions, a significant subset of them will turn out to be total dickwads. Much like how lactic acid bacteria will render their environment acidic so that other bacteria cannot thrive, it takes a shockingly small percentage of total dickwads to render an environment so toxic to regular people that the only people who thrive there are other dickwads.
The fact is that the majority of the community isn’t like that, but because we exist at the fringes due to the semilegitimate nature of piracy there often isn’t a lot of effort to keeping the community decent. Just do what most of us do, download and move on.
Why don’t the majority talk over the dickwads if they outnumber them? Why does it only take a few to mess everything up?
Because why would I waste my time shouting at dickwads in some filthy corner of the internet, when I can just go to a space where they’re not welcome? It’s definitely better overall to stand up and fight but the fight never ends and it’s exhausting. I definitely understand anyone who just wouldn’t bother.
That’s true. sigh It’s just rather frustrating that it only takes a few to ruin things for so many…
It’s only ruined if you actually want to engage in the chat. Use it for what it’s for, and come get your community on Lemmy. Beehaw.org in particular is a smaller, more heavily moderated instance that might be the kind of space you’re looking for. I keep an account there and on lemm.ee specifically so I can choose how much “freedom” I’d like to be exposed to depending on how I feel.
I was referring to the Nicotine+ chat being ruined. I’m already on Beehaw, though it’s not really about piracy-related stuff. It’s nice though.
I’m not sure how much I’d even use Nicotine+, it doesn’t have a lot of what I’m looking for. Just music. I tend to look for retro game stuff. I have all the No-Intro sets for older systems so I don’t need stuff that’s in those (except the private entries). It’s hard to find stuff that isn’t just in any No-Intro, GoodTools, or TOSEC set, unfortunately. I might use it to share stuff. Maybe eMule as well? I don’t know. shrug
Fear of association maybe?
Every unmoderated internet space is destined to look like that. Just use it for music sharing and you won’t even know the chat is there.
Correct. Reason being:
Lots of crossover between 4chan and the general piracy community. First place I actually heard about soulseek was on the 4chan music board. I don’t really go there anymore. So yeah, its 4channers thinking they’re in good company.
i tried it for 10 minutes and nobody ever replied to me
also, anonymity? Isn’t direct ip address connection, so easily traceable?
I guess there are also usernames…
Anonymity not needed i guess
I don’t even know why there’s a chat room function in it. I never use it tbh
it’s pretty widely known that its a toxic hellscape there, i’ve typically had great interactions with users in dm’s but the chatrooms have become overrun with toxicity and fascists over the past decade, it’s absolutely not representative of the online music community which is largely left leaning, even on p2p and piracy platforms
Don’t go in the chatrooms except for private ones is my rule for soulseek for exactly this reason.
If you ignore the chatrooms, you should still be able to use it effectively.
Yeah I would just stay clear of the chat. There’s plenty of normal people on the network, it’s just they don’t use the chat either. I’ve met some cool folks through DM’s though.