A Prince Edward Island hospital is suffering from a COVID-19 outbreak for the first time since the province dropped basically all pandemic restrictions at its hospitals earlier this year.
The Kings County Memorial Hospital in Montague is one of two on the eastern side of the island. It’s normally open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., but now closes at 4 p.m. as the COVID-19 outbreak in the inpatient unit puts additional stress on hospital operations.
Oh, who could have guessed? It seems that countries all over the world are learning the hard way that “living with COVID” means having precautions such as mask/respirator use, not living like it’s 2019. I could imagine Finnish hospitals reporting the same as time goes on.
What do you suggest though? Never host another concert, event, festival, etc ever again? You aren’t safe in outside events either - I got my case at an outdoor event.
You’ve always took that risk to go to such events. There’s always an uptick in colds after major ones. Sometimes people are aware thst they feel sick, other times they are asymptomatic but a carrier.
No, we needn’t cancel all the fun activities that involve large groups of people. But maybe we should give some thought to how those things work.
Would normalizing the use of decent masks help? Would it help to offer refunds to those who test positive or even just don’t feel well? Maybe there are ways to run them that doesn’t require people to be packed in like factory farmed chickens. Maybe there are ways to manage ventilation in a way that doesn’t move the air horizontally through facilities. Maybe there are ways to partition the crowd into smaller cohorts that don’t mingle with other cohorts.
I wouldn’t mind finding a way to attend some of these things without just accepting that I’m going to catch something every couple of times I go out.
Shit guess hospitals are just gonna have to deal then, ey? You want that surgery done? Too bad, it’s getting rescheduled. Again. Oh, your cancer is palliative only now, not curative care? Too bad, you waited too long.
The consequences of the consequences of the consequences… if your only reaction is “oh I can’t do fun things anymore then, huh?!”, well … if you care about the consequences, you’d make different decisions. If you don’t care about the consequences, be honest about it.
Again, what is your solution ? It’s unrealistic to expect everyone everywhere will never have an event, etc ever again for the rest of time. Be it a house party or otherwise, the risk is always there. There are consequences to every action but if we care about every consequence like that… it’s honestly better to just end all our lives right here. It would be the most net positive action we can take. But that isn’t a viable solution either, is it? How do we get everyone to agree to committing suicide?
You’re saying a lot of angry words but providing no solutions or suggestions. You’re basically being that old man yelling at clouds. We are social creatures and most people can’t live in complete isolation forever. Even if we try to, our societies just aren’t built for that. People who try often starve to death.
The compromise we sort of reached between “never go out again” and “take no precautions” was wearing masks in crowded places, doing at-home tests, getting vaccine boosters from time to time and staying home if you feel unwell. This isn’t really such a bad arrangement, if most people go along with it. But somehow taking precautions has become a politically fraught thing and some people are thinking in black and white, as if the options are either doing nothing or locking everyone in their homes. Living with COVID will have to be a compromise between these extremes.
I really wish masks would become mandatory for food service people. It was really frustrating that literally the day it stopped being mandatory, my local coffee shop had basically none of the baristas wearing masks. One of them coughed while making my coffee and was like “oh don’t worry, it’s not COVID”
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Oh, who could have guessed? It seems that countries all over the world are learning the hard way that “living with COVID” means having precautions such as mask/respirator use, not living like it’s 2019. I could imagine Finnish hospitals reporting the same as time goes on.
What do you suggest though? Never host another concert, event, festival, etc ever again? You aren’t safe in outside events either - I got my case at an outdoor event.
You’ve always took that risk to go to such events. There’s always an uptick in colds after major ones. Sometimes people are aware thst they feel sick, other times they are asymptomatic but a carrier.
No, we needn’t cancel all the fun activities that involve large groups of people. But maybe we should give some thought to how those things work.
Would normalizing the use of decent masks help? Would it help to offer refunds to those who test positive or even just don’t feel well? Maybe there are ways to run them that doesn’t require people to be packed in like factory farmed chickens. Maybe there are ways to manage ventilation in a way that doesn’t move the air horizontally through facilities. Maybe there are ways to partition the crowd into smaller cohorts that don’t mingle with other cohorts.
I wouldn’t mind finding a way to attend some of these things without just accepting that I’m going to catch something every couple of times I go out.
Shit guess hospitals are just gonna have to deal then, ey? You want that surgery done? Too bad, it’s getting rescheduled. Again. Oh, your cancer is palliative only now, not curative care? Too bad, you waited too long.
The consequences of the consequences of the consequences… if your only reaction is “oh I can’t do fun things anymore then, huh?!”, well … if you care about the consequences, you’d make different decisions. If you don’t care about the consequences, be honest about it.
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Again, what is your solution ? It’s unrealistic to expect everyone everywhere will never have an event, etc ever again for the rest of time. Be it a house party or otherwise, the risk is always there. There are consequences to every action but if we care about every consequence like that… it’s honestly better to just end all our lives right here. It would be the most net positive action we can take. But that isn’t a viable solution either, is it? How do we get everyone to agree to committing suicide?
You’re saying a lot of angry words but providing no solutions or suggestions. You’re basically being that old man yelling at clouds. We are social creatures and most people can’t live in complete isolation forever. Even if we try to, our societies just aren’t built for that. People who try often starve to death.
The compromise we sort of reached between “never go out again” and “take no precautions” was wearing masks in crowded places, doing at-home tests, getting vaccine boosters from time to time and staying home if you feel unwell. This isn’t really such a bad arrangement, if most people go along with it. But somehow taking precautions has become a politically fraught thing and some people are thinking in black and white, as if the options are either doing nothing or locking everyone in their homes. Living with COVID will have to be a compromise between these extremes.
I really wish masks would become mandatory for food service people. It was really frustrating that literally the day it stopped being mandatory, my local coffee shop had basically none of the baristas wearing masks. One of them coughed while making my coffee and was like “oh don’t worry, it’s not COVID”
“I’m less worried about COVID, and more worried about your lung butter in my drink.”
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Also people who can’t (or refuse to) risk getting COVID are just banned from society