We have many admins or uploaders wondering how many concurrent viewers a PeerTube instance can handle and how much its P2P feature can help the server...
PeerTube is a decentralized and federated alternative to YouTube. The goal of PeerTube is not to replace YouTube but to offer a viable alternative using the strength of ActivityPub and P2P protocols.
Being built on ActivityPub means PeerTube is able to be part of a bigger social network, the Fediverse (the Federated Universe). On the other hand, P2P technologies help PeerTube to solve the issue of money, inbound with all streaming platform : With PeerTube, you don’t need to have a lot of bandwidth available on your server to host a PeerTube platform because all users (which didn’t disable the feature) watching a video on PeerTube will be able to share this same video to other viewers.
If you are curious about PeerTube, I can’t recommend you enough to check the official website to learn more about the project. If after that you want to try to use PeerTube as a content creator, you can try to find a platform available there to register or host yourself your own PeerTube platform on your own server.
The development of PeerTube is actually sponsored by Framasoft, a french non-for-profit popular educational organization, a group of friends convinced that an emancipating digital world is possible, convinced that it will arise through actual actions on real world and online with and for you!
Framasoft is also involved in the development of Mobilizon, a decentralized and federated alternative to Facebook Events and Meetup.
If you want to contribute to PeerTube, feel free to:
Anyone care to share their thoughts on proper netiquette when posting to a Peertube instance?
Specifically I’d be interested to learn if it’s only considered appropriate for those contributing to the network (either by hosting a server or contributing financially) to post or if the uploading of original work is itself is considered a contribution.
Part of people’s motivation for all the YouTube entertainment content is getting paid. People get a slice of the ad revenue. I hate ads, not advocating.
How do people see a federated video service be used? Just for fun/community?
I don’t think anybody’s tried exactly nebula-style, but there is already https://newellijay.tv which seems to be a kind of video-outgrowth of an existing rural makerspace? Pretty cool project from what I’m seeing
Good luck, Nebula is a paid service. My issue with peertube is that Framasoft is completely unwilling to allow others to make money. They seem to think they can make it work just on peoples kindness but hosting videos is extremely demanding compared to a mastodon instance.
What they should do is find a way to allow server admins and creators to sell content and goods. For instance, I would pay for a Proxmox guide or book.
There are multiple monetization plugins and absolutely no built-in anti-monetization features. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to keep the base software monetization agnostic. They talked about this at length during the AMA a couple of weeks ago. I believe this one is the most popular: https://github.com/samlich/peertube-plugin-web-monetization
I’m aware there are plugins but plugins aren’t a standard. I want a platform that is ad free and can handle payments. Obysee technically is a option but it sucked last time I used it and was full of Nazis
PeerTube is not really intended as a platform, even less so than most fediverse projects. As it stands, the best way to think about PeerTube is sans discovery mechanisms because I don’t think any are planned. With this in mind, peertube is best thought of as the video extension of the fediverse and the discovery niche is filled through word-of-mouth here and over on the microblogging side.
There are quite a few creators who are primarily funded off patreon and release content to YouTube. I imagine a group like MCDM (Matt Colville) who has patreon, merch, crowdfunding, and products doesn’t really care about ad revenue.
Rather that individuals setting up or seeking out an instance, I could see institutes whose members produce content using it, but they’d have to really care about avoiding YouTube. Blender foundation is an example, and they have a peer tube instance, but maybe universities, nonprofits, or research institutions.
Except for a marginal fraction of the top YouTubers, aren’t most of them getting paid to inject sponsored links and from donations/patronage these days? It seems that the deal you are referring to has been off the table for a majority of YouTubers for a very long time now, and I don’t see why other platforms wouldn’t be as good, or even healthier than YouTube to provide them that kind of revenue.
Most (all) of the creators I watch have patreon/buymeacoffee/merch/sponsored videos. I’ve heard from many of them that the amount of ad revenue they receive from YouTube is a rounding error compared to that. No reason every single creator on peertube cant put a link in the description to donate, sell merch, etc and its not conditional on tiptoeing around youtube’s ai fuelled demonetization that constantly steals the little ad revenue they would have otherwise received
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Anyone care to share their thoughts on proper netiquette when posting to a Peertube instance?
Specifically I’d be interested to learn if it’s only considered appropriate for those contributing to the network (either by hosting a server or contributing financially) to post or if the uploading of original work is itself is considered a contribution.
Part of people’s motivation for all the YouTube entertainment content is getting paid. People get a slice of the ad revenue. I hate ads, not advocating.
How do people see a federated video service be used? Just for fun/community?
No reason a Nebula-type model couldn’t see success on peertube
I do like nebula
I don’t think anybody’s tried exactly nebula-style, but there is already https://newellijay.tv which seems to be a kind of video-outgrowth of an existing rural makerspace? Pretty cool project from what I’m seeing
Good luck, Nebula is a paid service. My issue with peertube is that Framasoft is completely unwilling to allow others to make money. They seem to think they can make it work just on peoples kindness but hosting videos is extremely demanding compared to a mastodon instance.
What they should do is find a way to allow server admins and creators to sell content and goods. For instance, I would pay for a Proxmox guide or book.
There are multiple monetization plugins and absolutely no built-in anti-monetization features. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to keep the base software monetization agnostic. They talked about this at length during the AMA a couple of weeks ago. I believe this one is the most popular: https://github.com/samlich/peertube-plugin-web-monetization
I’m aware there are plugins but plugins aren’t a standard. I want a platform that is ad free and can handle payments. Obysee technically is a option but it sucked last time I used it and was full of Nazis
PeerTube is not really intended as a platform, even less so than most fediverse projects. As it stands, the best way to think about PeerTube is sans discovery mechanisms because I don’t think any are planned. With this in mind, peertube is best thought of as the video extension of the fediverse and the discovery niche is filled through word-of-mouth here and over on the microblogging side.
There are quite a few creators who are primarily funded off patreon and release content to YouTube. I imagine a group like MCDM (Matt Colville) who has patreon, merch, crowdfunding, and products doesn’t really care about ad revenue.
Rather that individuals setting up or seeking out an instance, I could see institutes whose members produce content using it, but they’d have to really care about avoiding YouTube. Blender foundation is an example, and they have a peer tube instance, but maybe universities, nonprofits, or research institutions.
Except for a marginal fraction of the top YouTubers, aren’t most of them getting paid to inject sponsored links and from donations/patronage these days? It seems that the deal you are referring to has been off the table for a majority of YouTubers for a very long time now, and I don’t see why other platforms wouldn’t be as good, or even healthier than YouTube to provide them that kind of revenue.
Most (all) of the creators I watch have patreon/buymeacoffee/merch/sponsored videos. I’ve heard from many of them that the amount of ad revenue they receive from YouTube is a rounding error compared to that. No reason every single creator on peertube cant put a link in the description to donate, sell merch, etc and its not conditional on tiptoeing around youtube’s ai fuelled demonetization that constantly steals the little ad revenue they would have otherwise received
You can get paid via sponsorships too.