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Curating this volume of content is impossible, and there are legitimate dangers in giving the government too much ability to shut down free speech

Agreed. We have already given more than enough control to the government in other areas of our lives. We now have alternative social platforms that give us a chance to actually have more direct control over our media landscape which hasn’t been true in such a long time.

you have to build a society that doesn’t want to engage with bigotry, and explore and question its own assumptions (and that’s not ever a fixed state, it’s an ongoing process).

I think this is what they were trying to get across when they mention media ecology. They were pointing out how the structure of where media is shared and its sources can be more important for quashing disinformation than the actual content itself.

So when something is shared through YouTube there are certain pressures that over time mold the source of information into a specific format.

I’d say the same is true of the Fediverse as well. That’s why its important we get the structure here right because it will determine what kind of platform this place turns into.

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such that your model could be “riding along on a human surfboard with human guidance”

Sorry I don’t really understand what you’re saying here.

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Good point. I have been a lot more active in tailoring my experience here compared to other social media. I wish there was more tools for deciding whether or not you want to block someone though. Sometimes its not as simple as just looking at their post history. Also as an aside I wish it was possible to block votes as well so the ranking of the content was also able to be personalized.

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I’m going to be bold enough to say we don’t have as wide of an AI/LLM issue on the Fediverse as the other platforms will have.

Why do you think that? I don’t think that there is anything systemic in how the fediverse operates that will stop LLMs polluting the discourse here too. Actually I already think that they are polluting the discourse here.

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That sucks. So much research is being twisted by humanity’s greed. I hope that whatever comes after the internet becomes useless is better.

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It says that it continued into the Biden era as well.

The military program started under former President Donald Trump and continued months into Joe Biden’s presidency, Reuters found – even after alarmed social media executives warned the new administration that the Pentagon had been trafficking in COVID misinformation. The Biden White House issued an edict in spring 2021 banning the anti-vax effort, which also disparaged vaccines produced by other rivals, and the Pentagon initiated an internal review, Reuters found.

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I’d say that its a bit too early to say that their tech will always be behind (if only because they have access to a lot of critical resources and probably will have ways to copy tech from other companies) but I can agree that their military is definitely not as experienced as the US.

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So the company was aware but I was wondering on whether it was public knowledge released today or it was released back then but no one paid attention.

Also the report says that they don’t believe it is a nation state actor because it doesn’t match with any known malicious clusters but it’s likely that countries have multiple unknown clusters they can test with if necessary.

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I was more thinking about all the services that rely on internet access to function. Like most economic systems would basically crash or grind to a halt.

There are a lot of products that don’t really need to be connected to the internet to do their job but are being connected anyways and would get bricked if access to the internet didn’t work. For example internet connected security cameras that don’t have cables connecting to where the data is being stored would be shot as well.

I mean the extent of the damage is really dependent on how the malware was spread which we don’t know yet so still mostly speculation on how damaging it could be.

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So the attack happened in October 2023 but it was only revealed to the public now? Or is it that it was public back then but people didn’t pay attention?

Also the part where they say it has only ever happened as a precursor to a military invasion sort makes me think that this attack was some nation state practicing or signalling what they would do if they were in active cyber warfare which would be bad for the world if people in the competing nations didn’t have internet access, even if it was only for a day or two.

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I mean it is a common sentiment that has been measured:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240502151808/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/opinion/biden-trump-consumer-confidence-economy.html

Beyond that if you are insinuating that it is a coordinated campaign of people doing this, I mean yeah that’s probably true to some extent. But the reason why they are targeting that is because they know it is a weak point.

So posting an article showing that the cost of living is going down would make that kind of sentiment less justified.

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Here is the archived version without the paywall:

https://web.archive.org/web/20240516210957/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/06/china-russia-republican-party-relations/678271/

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I also liked this quote from it:

Most don’t offer their fellow citizens a vision of utopia, and don’t inspire them to build a better world. Instead, they teach people to be cynical and passive, apathetic and afraid, because there is no better world to build. Their goal is to persuade their own people to stay out of politics, and above all to convince them that there is no democratic alternative: Our state may be corrupt, but everyone else is corrupt too. You may not like our leader, but the others are worse. You may not like our society, but at least we are strong. The democratic world is weak, degenerate, divided, dying.

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I’d go for a SearXNG instance, since its a meta search engine, its gonna work unless all other search engines shut down.

Also nice benefit of being FOSS and of no charge.

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I just read your profile and can’t believe you guys have been on lemmy for 3 years. What made you guys join before lemmy got popular?

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Brexit, Trump and the Ultimatum Game
Found this article from 2016 and thought that it is actually a good theory of where we are now as a society. The rest are my thoughts on this: The ultimatum game is an experiment a dealer has a 100$ and they are able to offer you any split of the money they like and keep the rest for themselves. If you reject the offer no one gets any money. It has been shown that after increasingly unfair offers people tend to reject the offer even though it isn't a rational move. People seem to be in a place where they see the benefits of society are unequally distributed and are becoming more willing to throw out the whole system even if it comes at huge cost to them. We are seeing the same thing with what is happening in New Caledonia with the riots or with even with just people moving off established social media. It seems like level of awfulness that makes people willing to just say fuck it all is different for everyone but with more occurrences of this happening I do think we are reaching a tipping point on a global scale. This is actually a part of the reason why I believe countries are starting to regulate social media is so that people aren't reminded of these problems as often. For example China recently made a law that is going to repress showing wealth on social media. So this is an attempt to hide the problem instead of actually facing it. This is also related to the US election. Rationally people should choose Biden over Trump but according to the polls it seems like it being the "rational" choice isn't enough. [~Anti~ ~Commercial-AI~ ~license~ ~(CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0)~](https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/legalcode.en)
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From what I understood after I watched it and looked into it a bit more is that individuals have roles within the organization and are able to decide their own actions on how to fulfill that role. The actions are informed by the collective understanding of their goals and norms that are formed during their frequent meetings (which are very different in vibes from regular corporate meetings).

This is how I understood it works for most decisions but there a few decisions that fall back on voting which after the vote occurs the individuals are expected to carry out whatever was voted on.

So like it says in the video it is a largely informal structure but one that seems to work very well.



I don’t know I think that it is giving a bit to much credit to these organizations. Yes they are big and powerful but they are still run by humans who both give these organizations their power and also are the weakest links of most organizations.

This is why most new systems don’t come into power until the old ones become weak enough. Like capitalism was a thing during the times of feudalism for many years without necessarily replacing the main system but eventually as feudalism and the monarchy grew weaker eventually capitalism and meritocracy in some sense won out.

I mention this because yeah I agree that some sort of push back and fighting is going to be necessary but that alone isn’t going to be the main driving force. The external conditions also need to be ripe and to me it seems like we are on the verge of something new occurring.



cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/11194362 > 49.6% of all internet traffic came from bots in 2023, a 2% increase over the previous year, and the highest level Imperva has reported since it began monitoring automated traffic in 2013. For the fifth consecutive year, the proportion of web traffic associated with bad bots grew to 32% in 2023, up from 30.2% in 2022, while traffic from human users decreased to 50.4%. Automated traffic is costing organizations billions (USD) annually due to attacks … More → > The post Bots dominate internet activity, account for nearly half of all traffic appeared first on Help Net Security. >
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Why entertainment is a luxury, knowledge and education is basically what human civilization is built upon and should be free.

I think entertainment has the same cultural value as knowledge and education. They both inform us on how we view the world.


Ok, so do you think it’s a good or bad thing to be pirating these things?


Educational vs Entertainment Piracy
Do you guys see a difference morally? Why or why not? Educational - Science, Non-fiction books, Online courses, etc. Entertainment - Games, Movies + TV, Fiction books, etc.
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Don’t you guys have an admin chat group. Or at least you guys would have some way of keeping in touch since this has happened before.


Yeah this admin is only 1 month old. So it does seem likely that they weren’t around for the last outrage.


The part that annoys me is that this was done silently even though last time they said they would ask their users. Hopefully it was just an admin that didn’t get the last memo.

Edit: the community -> their users


This community got removed from lemmy.world (again)
This is another post that alerted me of this. https://lemmy.world/post/13287681 And here is the modlog: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemoveCommunity
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You know if you want to do something more effective than just putting copyright at the end of your comments you could try creating an adversarial suffix using this technique. It makes any LLM reading your comment begin its response with any specific output you specify (such as outing itself as a language model or calling itself a chicken).

It gives you the code necessary to be able to create it.

There are also other data poisoning techniques you could use just to make your data worthless to the AI but this is the one I thought would be the most funny if any LLMs were lurking on lemmy (I have already seen a few).


It seems like he removed the ad read from the video. So I’m guessing he was taking the criticism to heart.


Yeah quite a few of his videos feel like that.

The content is good but then comes the ad read being read with the same enthusiasm as the video which just makes the video feel insincere.


It’s still a shitty status quo, but it is what it is.

I don’t like the status quo and I think it should change.



Yeah it is but it just irks me either way.

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I just want to clarify I am agreeing that in our current society that if you have more money you tend to be highly valued.

I am not agreeing that this is how it should be.