at least then you’re dealing with the laws of nature instead of man-made BS. if you’re like me and have 0 tolerance for BS, it’s an absolute win.

come into the light, my child. become an electrical engineer.

alright, if python is a regular screwdriver, what is C? a single iron filing?

edit: I’m starting to doubt any of you have ever used C

are you sure python is a screwdriver? Its not the all new AI-driven Smart screwdriver that requires an account, wifi connection, and for you to input the name of your project before you can use it?

that may be true for CS and software development, but I think that has ended up being more harmful for other fields like electrical engineering. Kind of like how non STEM majors are too afraid to try engineering or sciences, because they all think calculus is this big scary incomprehensible thing that only einstein-level geniuses can learn. I’m seeing that same kind of fear preventing students from going into engineering because they don’t want to learn anything besides python.

there are unofficial dotnet compilers on linux, but I honestly c is just better.

buy yourself a copy of K&R 2e (The C programming language by Brian Kernighan and Dennis Ritchie). Its not only a good c book, but a great beginner programming book in general. If you’re a learn by doing guy, it has a lot of exercises you do.

i normally don’t learn by reading textsbooks myself, but this book proved an exception. its inexpensive too.

Sure python may be easier to learn, but it makes learning actual programming more difficult. Ever since the CS department switched to python, my workload as a computer systems TA has doubled.

that explains why the idea to replace engineers would enter peoples minds, but not why they would try so, so hard to get people to believe it.

sometimes, it feels like managers hate engineers, and are constantly plotting their replacement. maybe its because it hurts their ego to know that the engineers they manage worked harder to get there and deserve a higher salary.

or else, it could be office politics. anyone who can claim to have removed an entire department from payroll is due a huge raise.

oh, well then that explains why Python is a joke.

its even worse that they hat to ruin a beautiful existing language to do it.

not really, imo. its more like a sequenced list of pointers to various instruction sets.

can you really call python programming though? The reason why python is so quick to write is because its so-called libraries are pre-compiled C programs. so you’re not writing new programs, you’re scripting existing ones.

you ever get the feeling that programming has gotten way too overbloated? that good old fashioned engineering has been buried under miles of industry standards, best practices, enterprise services, business methodologies, and managers trying to justify their paychecks?

feels like a giant bubble way too overdue for a needle.

I’m still curious what the reason is, even if its clown logic.

Why is writing code by hand out of the question?

Not exactly accurate, I think. Even machine language is bound by the CPU’s architecture. You can’t do anything in machine language that wasn’t specifically provided for by the CPU architects.

It would be more accurate to say it’s like creating a new universe using all the same laws of physics, thermodynamics, cosmology, ethics, etc as our existing universe.

Not when it was invented, no. Compared to today’s stack-phobic languages? Certainly.

I want to point out that, just like in real life, its the inclusion of that “++” which complicates things. Without them, it would be straightforward and elegant, having only 1 logical solution.

Makes you wonder why people keep insisting on having the “++” around. Why not ditch them and go back to basics.

“It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to BASIC: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration.”

-Edsger W. Dijkstra

Is this a NTFS meme that I’m too ext4 to understand?

Why C ‘hackers’? Why not just regular C users?

If you ask me, the only reason for objects to exist are for preventing stale references. Anything more than this is unnecessary.

I used to think I was just a fanboy. But as time went on and I gained more and more experiences, I’ve only become all the more sure that ANSI C is the only language I ever want to write anything in.

I/O Issues are problems that come with the territory for scripting languages like python. Its why I prefer to use bash for scripting instead, because in bash, all I/O are strings. And if there are ever any conflicts, well that’s what awk/sed/Perl are for.

I was taught coding using IDEs. After I discovered that they aren’t even necessary for debuging and compiling, I said “What’s the point?” And I’ve just been using text editors ever since.

Having a similar moment right now. I’m trying to figure out how to compute the transformation matrix for reflecting a bitmap of any given dimension across the y axis, but all the tutorials that come up in my search just tell me to import some python library. Its like nobody wants to learn how to do anything anymore.

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More like “similar bloat”

I know I’m a fanboy, but I fell in love with C from the first time I tried it. I especially like its bare-bones grammar that never gets in your way. I appreciate how much it has taught me about how computers work. It helped me realize my aspirations to be an electrical engineer.

int main() {}

Seriously. why isn’t there any C love around here?

Everything I’ll ever make will be done in C. Try and stop me.