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I understand where you are coming from, really… And I also appreciate the care that went into crafting your reply with the clear considerations to keep a neutral and rational tone, so I wish to extend the courtesy back.
The major contention I have with your position is that it is only easily justified if it were true that Israel is in fact indiscriminately bombing Palestinians. However the basis in reality to support the indiscriminate claim just doesn’t exist at the current point. In fact the specific video posted here is explicitly contradictory to that argument. Israel has developed military technology beyond nearly every other country in the world in order to precisely and discriminatorily be able to target enemy combatants in civilian dense urban areas. The roof knock bombs that IDF use prior to levelling a structure so that citizens can have time to flee the scene is a prime example as well.
Fuck… You’re right, it did.
What the hell do you think war is guy? You new to this? Never seen someone’s leg blown off before? Ever applied a tourniquet?
Guy this is the exact definition of precise. Literally hits one guy in a crowd. Assuming this asshole is in fact HAMAS, then they literally did it with 0 civilian casualties… So you really better ask yourself who you are cheering for here. HAMAS is literally by their own reports still holding completely innocent civilians hostage right now, and I assure you they aren’t just playing Parcheesi with them.
HAMAS started this war by launching tens of thousands of missiles into crowded urban cities intentionally trying to kill civilians.
You can be pro-Palestinian without being pro-HAMAS… Please never forget this. In fact if you are pro Palestinian, you really have to be Anti-HAMAS. HAMAS has literally murdered Palestinians en masse.
Please for the love of all decency, find your way to the middle ground.
I have no clue what you are defending.
Also that’s the silliest shit I’ve ever heard. A tamir interceptor is designed for the interception of rockets, artillery, and mortars. Just consider what the design of a rocket with such a task specific purpose would need to be designed to do. Think about how it would move, how it would sound, what the warhead is designed to do.
Really think this through please. Because most people here in Lemmy thought the rocket that hit the hospital (which ended up actually being the parking lot) and killed those 900 people (which actually ended up being ~300) was a US JDAM.
You actually believe that a low yield… Maybe 20lb NEW warhead designed for shrapnel dispersal fired at the sky and then malfunctioning and falling back to the ground… Would have the same devastation, velocity, and angle of attack as a missile people reasonably, but still mistakeningly thought was a 500lb NEW Air to Surface JDAM.
You could literally just use your own eyes and go look for videos of what it looks like for the tamir to explode in the air and compare that to the massive incendiary fireball that came from the HAMAS rocket and you would immediately know how insane that theory is.
And then I hope you walk away from that with just a little bit of skepticism and shame because you are guzzling the Kool aid bud.
No dude… Nothing like that… Israel has made plenty of mistakes, especially in the past, and this is an extremely complex issue.
To answer your first question in terms of casualty counts. The very first thing is that casualty counts are very commonly over/under inflated, especially during times of conflict. There are many reasons you may want to over inflate or deflate your numbers. But honestly it is really difficult to take casualty rates at face value. Let’s say we take it for what it is and its skewed. Now we run straight into a philosophical conundrum that is probably much to big to effectively argue through on the internet.
Your philosophical position on about a dozen or so moralistic arguments are going to shape your ultimate decision on where you stand in terms of casualty imbalances.
So I will skip all that and give you some of the things that I believe would bring me to your side.