Israeli air force launches strike upon Hospital “Hamas Base” parking lot, with an R9X missile.
For context, the image is from Reuters with info about the missile. It references a different time that the US used it to kill a terrorist leader. The video below is a hospital parking lot in gaza.
That’s right. Since Palestine is occupied by Israel it isn’t legal for Israel to use military force there, only police force. To be more precise, this is a decades-long occupation that has established an apartheid state, and to be even more precise, this is genocide.
Man, looks like they got the guy they were targeting and none of the civilians… This is way cleaner than when HAMAS dropped a bomb on a Palestinian hospital… they ended up killing hundreds of Palestinians…
You don’t know that. You don’t know if the guy in the parking lot is a civilian or not. Also, there are many, many, other screams of people crying out in anguish. Generally, when I’m trying to not be a fucking monster, I don’t launch missiles or other weapons of war in crowded parking lots. But hey, that’s me and I actually have a functional fucking conscience.
Hey bud, neither do you… But go ahead and let your bias drive that confirmation. What I see is an insanely precise strike and a bunch of terrorist apologists who will never be happy no matter how insanely precise the IDF conducts it’s operations.
What the hell do you think war is guy? You new to this? Never seen someone’s leg blown off before? Ever applied a tourniquet?
Guy this is the exact definition of precise. Literally hits one guy in a crowd. Assuming this asshole is in fact HAMAS, then they literally did it with 0 civilian casualties… So you really better ask yourself who you are cheering for here. HAMAS is literally by their own reports still holding completely innocent civilians hostage right now, and I assure you they aren’t just playing Parcheesi with them.
HAMAS started this war by launching tens of thousands of missiles into crowded urban cities intentionally trying to kill civilians.
You can be pro-Palestinian without being pro-HAMAS… Please never forget this. In fact if you are pro Palestinian, you really have to be Anti-HAMAS. HAMAS has literally murdered Palestinians en masse.
Please for the love of all decency, find your way to the middle ground.
Casualty is both dead and injured as an FYI. So not one casualty in this instance.
I agree this isn’t a good example of the IDF acting in the same vein as Hamas, but I also understand the frustration of OP, watching an organized military bomb civilians indiscriminately for a month while the majority of western world governments cheer them on while saying “please reduce the civilian slaughter, it’s getting uncomfortable to defend” in about the mildest way you can say something like that, is demoralizing at best. That we still can’t agree that unilaterally, no matter the circumstances, killing civilians in indiscriminate bombings simply can’t be accepted and needs to be condemmed in the strongest terms possible makes me disappointed in humanity and democracy.
I understand where you are coming from, really… And I also appreciate the care that went into crafting your reply with the clear considerations to keep a neutral and rational tone, so I wish to extend the courtesy back.
The major contention I have with your position is that it is only easily justified if it were true that Israel is in fact indiscriminately bombing Palestinians. However the basis in reality to support the indiscriminate claim just doesn’t exist at the current point. In fact the specific video posted here is explicitly contradictory to that argument. Israel has developed military technology beyond nearly every other country in the world in order to precisely and discriminatorily be able to target enemy combatants in civilian dense urban areas. The roof knock bombs that IDF use prior to levelling a structure so that citizens can have time to flee the scene is a prime example as well.
Do you have access to actually launch missiles at things when you’re trying to be a monster?
Because unless you do, it makes your point really silly. Most individuals don’t have an option to launch a missile to be a monster. But I know some people who absolutely would use one (or more) if they had access.
People are monsters. Period. Nobody is perfect. And I’m sure you’ve justified some actions that are less than pure in your lifetime. Just because you don’t launch missiles at people doesn’t make it better.
War sucks, civilians loose while the elite get more wealthy.
Only one who’s a clown is the one who doesn’t have the self reflection to understand everyone wrongs someone else in life.
Life isn’t black and white. Stay safe out there and be kind.
Also that’s the silliest shit I’ve ever heard. A tamir interceptor is designed for the interception of rockets, artillery, and mortars. Just consider what the design of a rocket with such a task specific purpose would need to be designed to do. Think about how it would move, how it would sound, what the warhead is designed to do.
Really think this through please. Because most people here in Lemmy thought the rocket that hit the hospital (which ended up actually being the parking lot) and killed those 900 people (which actually ended up being ~300) was a US JDAM.
You actually believe that a low yield… Maybe 20lb NEW warhead designed for shrapnel dispersal fired at the sky and then malfunctioning and falling back to the ground… Would have the same devastation, velocity, and angle of attack as a missile people reasonably, but still mistakeningly thought was a 500lb NEW Air to Surface JDAM.
You could literally just use your own eyes and go look for videos of what it looks like for the tamir to explode in the air and compare that to the massive incendiary fireball that came from the HAMAS rocket and you would immediately know how insane that theory is.
And then I hope you walk away from that with just a little bit of skepticism and shame because you are guzzling the Kool aid bud.
How was Israeli intelligence so bad that they could be taken off guard so incredibly in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, yet suddenly so good that they would dare to conduct missile strikes in crowded areas like this? Really, it’s as bad as ever and they’re just serial killers who are happy to launch flying Saw traps at Palestinian civilians.
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War is hell.
This isn’t war though. This is apartheid.
Once you find yourself arguing over words, you simultaneously find yourself missing the forest for the trees.
That’s right. Since Palestine is occupied by Israel it isn’t legal for Israel to use military force there, only police force. To be more precise, this is a decades-long occupation that has established an apartheid state, and to be even more precise, this is genocide.
Man, looks like they got the guy they were targeting and none of the civilians… This is way cleaner than when HAMAS dropped a bomb on a Palestinian hospital… they ended up killing hundreds of Palestinians…
You don’t know that. You don’t know if the guy in the parking lot is a civilian or not. Also, there are many, many, other screams of people crying out in anguish. Generally, when I’m trying to not be a fucking monster, I don’t launch missiles or other weapons of war in crowded parking lots. But hey, that’s me and I actually have a functional fucking conscience.
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Hey bud, neither do you… But go ahead and let your bias drive that confirmation. What I see is an insanely precise strike and a bunch of terrorist apologists who will never be happy no matter how insanely precise the IDF conducts it’s operations.
It cut one guys leg off. “Insanely precise”.
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Fuck… You’re right, it did.
What the hell do you think war is guy? You new to this? Never seen someone’s leg blown off before? Ever applied a tourniquet?
Guy this is the exact definition of precise. Literally hits one guy in a crowd. Assuming this asshole is in fact HAMAS, then they literally did it with 0 civilian casualties… So you really better ask yourself who you are cheering for here. HAMAS is literally by their own reports still holding completely innocent civilians hostage right now, and I assure you they aren’t just playing Parcheesi with them.
HAMAS started this war by launching tens of thousands of missiles into crowded urban cities intentionally trying to kill civilians.
You can be pro-Palestinian without being pro-HAMAS… Please never forget this. In fact if you are pro Palestinian, you really have to be Anti-HAMAS. HAMAS has literally murdered Palestinians en masse.
Please for the love of all decency, find your way to the middle ground.
Casualty is both dead and injured as an FYI. So not one casualty in this instance.
I agree this isn’t a good example of the IDF acting in the same vein as Hamas, but I also understand the frustration of OP, watching an organized military bomb civilians indiscriminately for a month while the majority of western world governments cheer them on while saying “please reduce the civilian slaughter, it’s getting uncomfortable to defend” in about the mildest way you can say something like that, is demoralizing at best. That we still can’t agree that unilaterally, no matter the circumstances, killing civilians in indiscriminate bombings simply can’t be accepted and needs to be condemmed in the strongest terms possible makes me disappointed in humanity and democracy.
I understand where you are coming from, really… And I also appreciate the care that went into crafting your reply with the clear considerations to keep a neutral and rational tone, so I wish to extend the courtesy back.
The major contention I have with your position is that it is only easily justified if it were true that Israel is in fact indiscriminately bombing Palestinians. However the basis in reality to support the indiscriminate claim just doesn’t exist at the current point. In fact the specific video posted here is explicitly contradictory to that argument. Israel has developed military technology beyond nearly every other country in the world in order to precisely and discriminatorily be able to target enemy combatants in civilian dense urban areas. The roof knock bombs that IDF use prior to levelling a structure so that citizens can have time to flee the scene is a prime example as well.
Ok, sure. But how come then the Palestinian dead number in the thousands? Were they all Hamas? Even the kids?
this is not what indiscriminate bombing looks like. Check Vietnam war footages…
Do you have access to actually launch missiles at things when you’re trying to be a monster?
Because unless you do, it makes your point really silly. Most individuals don’t have an option to launch a missile to be a monster. But I know some people who absolutely would use one (or more) if they had access.
People are monsters. Period. Nobody is perfect. And I’m sure you’ve justified some actions that are less than pure in your lifetime. Just because you don’t launch missiles at people doesn’t make it better.
War sucks, civilians loose while the elite get more wealthy.
Yes, me justifying not registering my car on time is toooootally on par with…
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Bombing a hospital.
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Only one who’s a clown is the one who doesn’t have the self reflection to understand everyone wrongs someone else in life. Life isn’t black and white. Stay safe out there and be kind.
Defending bombing a hospital and waxing eloquent about self reflection. That’s rich.
Oh, we’re defending bombing hospitals now?
Did you hear the IDFs Hamas story was debunked and it likely came from Iron Dome?
I have no clue what you are defending.
Also that’s the silliest shit I’ve ever heard. A tamir interceptor is designed for the interception of rockets, artillery, and mortars. Just consider what the design of a rocket with such a task specific purpose would need to be designed to do. Think about how it would move, how it would sound, what the warhead is designed to do.
Really think this through please. Because most people here in Lemmy thought the rocket that hit the hospital (which ended up actually being the parking lot) and killed those 900 people (which actually ended up being ~300) was a US JDAM.
You actually believe that a low yield… Maybe 20lb NEW warhead designed for shrapnel dispersal fired at the sky and then malfunctioning and falling back to the ground… Would have the same devastation, velocity, and angle of attack as a missile people reasonably, but still mistakeningly thought was a 500lb NEW Air to Surface JDAM.
You could literally just use your own eyes and go look for videos of what it looks like for the tamir to explode in the air and compare that to the massive incendiary fireball that came from the HAMAS rocket and you would immediately know how insane that theory is.
And then I hope you walk away from that with just a little bit of skepticism and shame because you are guzzling the Kool aid bud.
There’s an AJ video where they claimed what he describes. It’s… not convincing. In fact it retroactively destroys some of the respect I had for AJ.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/19/what-hit-ahli-hospital-in-gaza
It tries to use the video from the local cameras to show that the rocket was intercepted.
From the commentary “That video clearly shows how the iron dome intercepted these rockets”
But the images it shows don’t really back up their claim. We’re not really seeing any “intercepted” happening.
I watched the al Jazeera vid where they pushed that theory and it’s completely incoherent. I honestly lost a lot of respect for AJ there.
How was Israeli intelligence so bad that they could be taken off guard so incredibly in Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, yet suddenly so good that they would dare to conduct missile strikes in crowded areas like this? Really, it’s as bad as ever and they’re just serial killers who are happy to launch flying Saw traps at Palestinian civilians.