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It’s $400 before tax with no SSD or RAM, so I’d need to get SSD, RAM and HDDs. What’s your thoughts on the specs at that cost? As the other comments point out, its an AM4, so it might make more sense to build something instead!


That’s actually a good call. Does it make more sense for me to look for a AM5 system and future proof with DDR5?


Thanks for the heads up…

  • I would go with no RAM and no SSD, install something I buy myself
  • Noticed that and it was brought up in a video, is it critical for a home server to have hot swappable drives?
  • I’m sure the Mac Mini is probably using over 15W right now, but I don’t know for certain. Any good ways to test outside of buying some hardware?

Most of the videos I’ve seen online are using Proxmox which is my goal. Just trying to decide if $400 before tax without any memory or storage is a good deal or if I should just build a box.


Thanks for the heads up, my Mini’s NIC is totally F’d so I’m using a USB adapter, I’d like to avoid having to do that again, but the WTR Pro does have 2 RJ45 Ethernet ports which is better than the Mini has.


Good call and good to hear you’ve not heard anything bad about the brand. Going to use it as a NAS, few VMs (Debian with Docker and NixOS dev env) and a Plex LXC (might move to Docker), but I aim to move my PiHole to it and want to try more distros in test environments. Biggest reason for an upgrade is the potential to transcode more content, the Mini struggles (fine on Direct Play) and also the NIC is flakey so it’s using a USB adapter right now. I probably borked it replacing the HDD with a SSD, it was a nightmare to open. Not sure if I’m ready to pull the trigger, but if my hardware died, I’d maybe go this route!


Thoughts and feelings on AOOSTAR WTR PRO AMD Ryzen 7 5825u hardware?
I’m looking to replace a 2013 Mac Mini running Proxmox. Just curious if anyone has one of these or anyone heard of any negatives about them? Watched a bunch of videos and outside of a lack of 10G Ethernet, it seems to be well received!
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Wholeheartedly agree with everyone else on the email. I’ve worked IT in a range of different sized businesses. The hardest one to date was the super paranoid place that insisted on hosting email. It’s an absolute pain to maintain and can be an unnecessary security risk for a few bucks!


Gonna be following this posts comments for some tips! I’m running Proxmox on an old 2012 Mac Mini which I’ve Frankenstein’d with an SSD and RAM as much as I can, the NIC is dead and I’ve resorted to USB Ethernet. I’ve not messed with exposing my server externally, I’m intrigued but also have a router with OVPN VPN network capability. I use a LXC for Plex (Debian) and a VM (Debian again) with Docker installed. Docker runs Haugene (look it up for VPN torrents), Screeps server and WikiJS. I have a Raspberry Pi 3B running PiHole, might set it up as a backup and use the Proxmox server as the primary. But I’m definitely ready for new hardware soon and I’d like to look into NAS storage, right now I’m using a rather sketch 4TB external USB drive for media (shit I don’t care about).


Proxmox server monitoring
Hey everyone I've got an old Mac Mini running Proxmox, right now all it has is a LXC for Plex and a Debian VM for Docker (OpenVPN/Transmission and Screeps server). What is everyone's preferred monitoring solution? I'm mostly interested in getting easy access to syslogs, seeing CPU/RAM/Disk space for the Proxmox host, VM and LXC. I have a Mac app called Daisy Disk that shows me all my data on my disk in a nice UI, something with similar capability would be great. I randomly installed Netdata, didn't love it. Ran into issues with Cockpit and gave up, but I'd try it again if it's considered the best. But I'd love to hear options, preferably with minimal setup and maintenance (wish is probably wishful thinking). Don't hate Proxmox VE, but I feel like I can do better.
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Network Stability Issues with tg3 Driver - Hardware Replacement or Further Testing?
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/12855130 > Hi Lemmy! > > Encountering network stability issues on my [Mac mini ("Core i7" 2.3 (Late 2012))](https://everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_mini/specs/mac-mini-core-i7-2.3-late-2012-specs.html) with Proxmox VE (Linux 6.5.13-1-pve). The enp1s0f0 interface (tg3 driver) frequently drops, displaying "Link is down" messages before recovering. This affects my Plex media server and has persisted across different OS installations. > > (related posts [here](https://lemmy.world/post/12240906) and [here](https://lemmy.world/post/12736723)) > > Here are some key excerpts from the logs showing the problem: > > - `NETDEV WATCHDOG: enp1s0f0 (tg3): transmit queue 0 timed out` > - `tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: transmit timed out, resetting` > - `tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is down` > - `kernel: vmbr0: port 1(enp1s0f0) entered disabled state` > - `kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex` > > Here is when it's happened > - `journalctl | grep -E "Link is down|Link is up" | grep 'enp1s0f0'` > - `Mar 03 00:03:05 macminiserver kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is down` > - `Mar 03 00:03:09 macminiserver kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex` > - `Mar 03 15:35:30 macminiserver kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is down` > - `Mar 03 15:35:34 macminiserver kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex` > - `Mar 04 12:43:45 macminiserver kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is down` > - `Mar 04 12:43:49 macminiserver kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex` > - `Mar 07 09:14:48 macminiserver kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is down` > - `Mar 07 09:14:52 macminiserver kernel: tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex` > > The issue is super intermittent, but it appears to happen more when I am trying to watch something on Plex (Direct Play to Apple TV), but it looks like it's also happened over night with limited activity. I've also successfully streamed all day on multiple devices, run `ping` to and from multiple devices, `mtr` between it and my other Mac and run 16 hours of `iperf3` with zero issues! > > - Does anyone have any guidance on how I can determine if this is a hardware issue or could it be driver/kernel related? > - I've ordered a [Plugable USB to Ethernet Adapter](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AQM8586/ref=pe_386300_440135490_TE_simp_item_image) to see if I can bypass the NIC and test if something else is the cause, I also needed a good USB to Ethernet adapter so it was time > - Would an external solution suffice, or is it time for a new system? > - Should I focus on further diagnostics in a different environment, or is it time to retire this box and get something new? > > Happy to share more of my syslog and also my network setup, I'm in a NYC apartment, so my options for changing the environment is limited. I've also not encountered (or noticed) the issue with any of my other devices on the same switch hooked up to the router in the same manner. I have tried a different port and cable so far, but not physically moved it to another switch yet. > > I'm getting closer and closer to just buying a Dell Optiplex (probably 11th Gen i7), cannibalize the SSD and trying to play with more services, but my original goal was to learn and host Plex cheaply and easily using this older hardware, but my sanity is running out! > > Thanks >
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Relevant log outputs for anyone intrigued

NETDEV WATCHDOG: enp1s0f0 (tg3): transmit queue 0 timed out

tg3 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0f0: transmit timed out, resetting

Link is down... Link is up at 1000 Mbps, full duplex


Thank you @CurbsTickle@lemmy.world

I’ll probably spring for the Anker USB-A adapter, it’ll be useful to have any way.

After days of testing, a mix of Direct Playing 4K DoVi/HDR10 (HEVC Main 10) on my 4K Apple TV and different media on other devices during the day and constant ping, mtr and iperf3across devices, I’ve determined this problem is totally random lol! Went 48 hours of TBs transferred between devices with iperf and a day of content playing, no problem, then randomly I’ll see Link is down on the NIC and I can’t ping it until it comes back up like it did this morning.

Might find a Linux community to share my syslog and see if any other suggestions for troubleshooting exist and make sure it isn’t something else with my network/unmanaged switches. But I might be burning time/energy on broken hardware and time to give up on it.

@phanto@lemmy.ca I’ll see if era ships to the US and make sure to be extra cautious of the listing description. Might also see if I can find a US equivalent.


Fell down a hole looking at the Optiplex machines last night. My desk is tiny and I’m already rocking this Mac Mini, a Mac Studio, work laptop and a pi3B running PiHole. So I’m leaning towards a micro, although I might be able to get away with a small form factor instead. I also have a MBP (“Core i7” 2.8 15" Early 2013) that I could wipe and use as a temporary measure while I save for something new. Also bought a pi4B with 4GB of RAM laying around and not used, so I could always split up services, whack Plex on the Studio and use what I’ve got for a while longer.

Right now I might go with @phanto@lemmy.ca suggestion to find a USB NIC adapter to keep this beast running or at least determine if it’s just the NIC and not the board. Any suggestions for a Debian friendly USB to ethernet adapter appreciated. I also have the Apple thunderbolt to ethernet adapter, might keep trying to get that working. Not seen a single dropped ping overnight with the builtin NIC, so it appears to be super intermittent or when I start to watch something on Plex.

I’m putting some money aside for an 10th or 11th gen i7 at minimum, I feel like I’d like the option for 4K transcoding if needed. Looks like I can put a 2.5" SATA in a micro (7090?), which would be awesome seeing as I have a SATA 1TB SSD in the mini right now I’d like to cannibalize.

My wife and I have had some bad experiences with Ebay in the past, but I’m willing to go back if I can find a good deal on an off lease Optiplex. Any other suggestions on places to look for off lease options that I can hopefully trust (US)?

Also please be brutally honest if you think I should just get a 6-8th gen Optiplex and not bother with the newer CPU. Outside of Plex and torrents, I’d like to eventually run Node.js, VSC Code Server, Pi-hole, home assistant, some storage or cloud access and a Screeps Server. Also playing with Blender, but I doubt I’ll be able to do much with rendering with any of these machines.


Not a lame suggest at all, this is probably saner option than me throwing $$$ on an 11th gen i7. Doing some research and I’m curious if you have a recommendation on adapter? I know the ASIX AX88179 is suggested and the Plugable adapter uses that chipset. I’d prefer to get something I know will work plug and play, then I can continue testing to ensure it’s just the NIC and nothing else. I also have an Apple Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter, I’ve not invested too much effort into troubleshooting, it doesn’t seem to work natively out the box with Proxmox/Debian.


Replacement Proxmox (media/VPN torrent server) hardware suggestions
Hey everyone! I created a [post](https://lemmy.world/post/12240906) in the Technology community regarding my home server and I got some fantastic advice from [@CurbsTickle@lemmy.world](https://lemmy.world/u/CurbsTickle) which led me to installing Proxmox on an older Apple Mac Mini ("Core i7" 2.3 Late 2012 model) that I've been trying to keep alive. My previous setup involved OMV and Docker. Plex and Haugene OVPN Transmission app running in containers. Then I manually copied from the Transmission SMB share to the Plex media folder. All of which resides on an external 2TB hard drive. I'd run into a really irritating network issue, usually when I was watching something in Plex. In the original post, I thought OMV was the issue and was looking for a new configuration to test. This led to me setting up Proxmox and installing Plex in a LXC container. Unfortunately the network issue is persistent and based on my limited knowledge it looks like the NIC is having an issue (Broadcom NetXtreme BCM57766), specifically transmit queue timeouts and then the NIC resets. I am unable to ping the server during this time and it happens randomly per the logs, but more frequent when I used Plex. I compared an old OMV syslog to the Proxmox ones and I suspect the hardware is failing and it's time for something new! My wife and I are trying to minimize our streaming services, but we're also not huge media watchers. Occasionally we want to watch a movie or I download an obscure British show, I'll go find it, download it and then copy via my Mac Studio with a SMB share. I will eventually look at the *arrs, but the priority is a functioning Plex server and a Haugene setup that doesn't impact my Plex functionality. I'd like to be able to direct play 4K content on my LG CX and 4K Apple TV, download to my iPad quicker than right now and maybe have someone remotely play something and it not melt the CPU (least important). I'm watching more anime, so transcoding might crop up on occasion with subtitles. I need advice on hardware and here are some key points - Form Factor: Compactness is key, aiming for a Small Form Factor (SFF) to save space. - Cost Efficient: I bought and installed a 1.0TB Mercury Electra 6G SSD not that long ago and also just bought (this week) 16GB of RAM which is now likely useless. I doubt I can repurpose these parts (drive maybe), so I'd like to be a bit budget conscious. But I'd also like to save myself headaches and willing to invest a little to have the performance and reliability I want. - CPU Preferences: I'm leaning more towards an Intel CPU, especially for their Quick Sync video transcoding, but I’m open to exploring AMD alternatives if they fit my requirements for 4K direct play and efficient transcoding. - Proxmox Compatibility: This will remain my primary OS for container and VM management. - Ease of Setup: I prefer a straightforward deployment/build process to get up and running without extensive tinkering. With these considerations, do you have any hardware recommendations? Whether it’s a specific model of a mini PC, a custom SFF build, or particular components that fit the bill, I’d greatly appreciate your suggestions. If you think there is any chance of reviving this old Mini and have suggestions on how to avoid the NIC problems, I'm open to hearing them, but I'd hate to throw more money at this thing right now if getting something new would be less stressful.
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