The government said Canadians who joined ISIS would face the 'full force' of the law, but not a single woman who lived under ISIS has yet been convicted.
The government said Canadians who joined ISIS would face the ‘full force’ of the law, but not a single woman who lived under ISIS has yet been convicted.
Sure, but aiding and abetting an organization that is legally recognized and sanctioned by Canada and pretty much all other developed countries as terrorist group has to run afoul of some law.
Like, what the fuck are these people saying to the customs reentry officers when they ask what they were doing in Afghanistan or Syria or whatever for the last several years? “Just some stuff, don’t worry about it”?
Edit: clarification: I am aware that it is considered a violation of human rights to render a person stateless. I am expressing surprise that the former terrorists returning to Canada weren’t immediately arrested on terrorism charges upon entry.
It doesn’t matter if they murdered half the world. Canada cannot deny them entry. Now, they can allow entry and take them straight to jail. But that is still allowing entry into their country of citizenship
Our jails are crowded and some of them are falling apart. Put them in jail after trial by all means, if their sentences so dictate. Putting them in jail before trial is only a good idea if they’re flight risks or a danger to others (which some of these women might be, I admit, but you need at least a figleaf of justification beyond “ISIS bad”). If they’re in jail, the money to feed, clothe, and house them comes out of our tax dollars, which may be better spent elsewhere.
(That’s in addition to the fact that some of them could still be found not guilty, in which case you’ve just held innocent people in jail.)
…these people spent anywhere from a few years to a decade aiding, abetting, and enabling terrorist extremist groups. I would absolutely consider them a flight risk and a potential danger to others, under the circumstances.
Don’t get me wrong - the US justice system is idiotic in a myriad of ways, but if a US citizen tried to return to the country after years of gallivanting around with ISIS or Boko Haram or whatever other extremist group you’d care to name (pointedly: any extremist group, not just specifically Islamic-identifying ones), I would fully expect the US customs agent to call in the federal marshalls the second it became apparent that they’d probably been off doing sketchy shit with terrorists. And I say that because I would further expect the FBI to have clued in on the fact that they’d been doing that, and would probably have a case file on them, and perhaps charges pending, and likely even a warrant out for their arrest.
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If they are still legally citizens, the country cannot refuse them entry to the country.
Sure, but aiding and abetting an organization that is legally recognized and sanctioned by Canada and pretty much all other developed countries as terrorist group has to run afoul of some law.
Like, what the fuck are these people saying to the customs reentry officers when they ask what they were doing in Afghanistan or Syria or whatever for the last several years? “Just some stuff, don’t worry about it”?
Edit: clarification: I am aware that it is considered a violation of human rights to render a person stateless. I am expressing surprise that the former terrorists returning to Canada weren’t immediately arrested on terrorism charges upon entry.
It doesn’t matter if they murdered half the world. Canada cannot deny them entry. Now, they can allow entry and take them straight to jail. But that is still allowing entry into their country of citizenship
Well yeah; that’s what I mean. I’m surprised they weren’t taken straight to jail, pending trial.
Our jails are crowded and some of them are falling apart. Put them in jail after trial by all means, if their sentences so dictate. Putting them in jail before trial is only a good idea if they’re flight risks or a danger to others (which some of these women might be, I admit, but you need at least a figleaf of justification beyond “ISIS bad”). If they’re in jail, the money to feed, clothe, and house them comes out of our tax dollars, which may be better spent elsewhere.
(That’s in addition to the fact that some of them could still be found not guilty, in which case you’ve just held innocent people in jail.)
…these people spent anywhere from a few years to a decade aiding, abetting, and enabling terrorist extremist groups. I would absolutely consider them a flight risk and a potential danger to others, under the circumstances.
Don’t get me wrong - the US justice system is idiotic in a myriad of ways, but if a US citizen tried to return to the country after years of gallivanting around with ISIS or Boko Haram or whatever other extremist group you’d care to name (pointedly: any extremist group, not just specifically Islamic-identifying ones), I would fully expect the US customs agent to call in the federal marshalls the second it became apparent that they’d probably been off doing sketchy shit with terrorists. And I say that because I would further expect the FBI to have clued in on the fact that they’d been doing that, and would probably have a case file on them, and perhaps charges pending, and likely even a warrant out for their arrest.
Turns out we all move on from these massive conflicts pretty quickly. I married a korean
Go touch more grass please.
I don’t see how you think not letting them return to the country is a responsible solution to any problem.
Making it someone else’s problem is always a possible solution to your problem.
Semi /s, I think?