please post any subsequent updates here unless they’re huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don’t have to be their own thread

Wouldn’t that be the best case for Russia? Take out military leadership, get someone else to be president, defend Crimea, try to get soldiers out of the rest of Ukraine, and get support for peace from the international community?

Essentially just a change in leadership for a, fortunately, abysmal failure.

Right now it looks as if he wants to maintain status quo, walk up there, and have this done with in a few days.

Yup.

With rumors the defense minister has been detained coupled with Wagner blaming the defense minister for the lies justifying the invasion… MAYBE this is some weird way for Putin to save face/stay alive while pulling out of eastern Ukraine?

But that sounds like bullshit, this whole thing is getting weirder by the moment right now. Smells like a lot of misinformation flowing from all sides right now.

Suppose Putin is in an information vacuum, like I’ve seen reported a few few times, then it doesn’t seem as as crazy. Still batshit insane but not as crazy. Cool to think about though.

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