An Ontario NDP MPP whose statement on the Israel-Gaza war garnered condemnation from Jewish groups and calls for her resignation by Premier Doug Ford has apologized.

An Ontario NDP MPP whose statement on the Israel-Gaza war garnered condemnation from Jewish groups and calls for her resignation by Premier Doug Ford has apologized.

Really?

You can’t see how a statement against Israel in the aftermath of an attack on Israel wouldn’t lead to an apology?

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You should read the actual statement linked below. Then explain exactly what is wrong with it.

The timing, I’ve been very clear on that

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Making reasonable comments on current events is wrong because they are current events?

I do not understand you take here at all.

Victim blaming isn’t going to be received well

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Her statement really wasn’t against Israel, it was against apartheid and enforced colonization. It said nothing about Israel

Hmmm I wonder who she was talking about then

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If being anti-apartheid because it leads to violence makes people uncomfortable… that is not a condemnation of a religion but a call to action to everyone’s humanity.

I cannot believe you are unable to see the matter, I think you are just arguing in bad faith because you oppose it

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I’m not acting in bad faith, a reasonable person who sees a bad thing that happens, wants to stop bad things from happening, and reasonable people have looked at this situation and come to the reasonable conclusion that much of the violence is due to the apartheid and oppression of a non-citizen population inside Israel.

I think many people have their heart in the right place, how do we stop the violence, we disagree on how to best achieve that, but calling people antisemitic for participating in the discourse just serves to polarize and exclude voices.

The issue is the timing of the message not the message. It’s not complex

Ahh yes, the “now is not the time to talk about gun control” argument that rears it’s ugly head after every school shooting in the US.

It’s not even remotely equivalent

It’s akin to the argument of “x” being a criminal so he deserves to die that people bring up after every cop killing

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Its extremely complex and interrelated, and apartheid isn’t a incidental “nice to have” secondary issue to resolve “later”, to many people its the direct cause of the violence that is dominating the news and breaking our hearts.

This is what a pressure boiler looks like when applied to people with no options and no hope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyn7PmwXJxY

thanks for the adjacent lecture but it’s not complex at all

People have spoken out against the Israeli regime many times before without being asked to resign

The whole issue is timing of the comment

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When will it be a good time? Because apparently it wasn’t a good time before the attack since a certain Palestinian-American in congress has been accused of anti-semetism since taking office because she calls out the genocidal government.

That was a good time for it

If she doesn’t have to say the country’s name for you to know who she’s talking about maybe that country should stop doing the bad thing instead of silencing people who are calling for human rights.

Sure but that’s unrelated to the issue with the timing of the statement

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