Nevermind, I am an idiot. As @ClickyMcTicker pointed out, it’s the client side that is causing the trouble. His comment gave me thought so I checked my testing procedure again. Turns out that, completely by accident, everytime I copied files to the LVM-based NAS, I used the SSD on my PC as the source. In contrast, everytime I copied to the ZFS-based NAS, I used my hard drive as the source. I did that about 10 times. Everything is fine now. Maybe this can help some other dumbass like me in the futere. Thanks everyone!
Hello there.
I’m trying to setup a NAS on Proxmox. For storage, I’m using a single Samsung Evo 870 with 2TB (backups will be done anyway, no need for RAID). In order to do this, I setup a Debian 12 container, installed Cockpit and the tools needed to share via SMB. I set everything up and transfered some files: about 150mb/s with huge fluctuations. Not great, not terrible. Iperf reaches around 2.25Gbit/s, so something is off. Let’s do some testing. I started with the filesystem. This whole setup is for testing anyway.
Storage via creating a directory with EXT4, then adding a mount point to the container. This is what gave me those speeds mentioned above. Okay, not good.
–> 150mb/s, speed fluctuates
a Let’s do ZFS, which I want to use anyway. I created a ZFS pool with ashift=12, atime=off, compression=lz4, xattr=sa and 1MB record size. I did “some” research and this is what I came up with, please correct me. Mount to container, and go.
–> 170mb/s, stable speed
b Tried OpenMediaVault and used EXT4 with ZFS as base for the VM-Drive.
–> around 200mb/s
LVM-Thin using Proxmox GUI, then mount to container.
–> 270mb/s, which is pretty much what I’m reaching with Iperf.
So where is my mistake when using ZFS? Disable compression? A different record size? Any help would be appreciated.
I’m gonna be honest though, I have no idea what to make of these values. Seemingly, the drive is capable of maxing out my network. The CPU shouldn’t be the problem, it’s a i7 10700.
I meant mega byte (I hope that’s correct I always mix them up). I transferred large videos files, both when the file system was zfs or lvm, yet different transfer speeds. The files were between 500mb to 1.5gb in size
@Pete90@MangoPenguin Bytes (B) are used for storage, bits (b) are used for network. 1B=8b.
2.5Gbps equals 312.5MBps.
With that in mind, there are a lot of moving parts to diagnose, assuming you want to reach that speed for a transfer. Can the storage of both machines reach that speed? I believe I saw the NAS’s disk tested and clocked at 470ish MBps, but can the client side keep up? I saw the iPerf test, but what was the exact command used? Did you multithread it?
Both machines are easily capable of reaching around 2.2Gbps. I can’t reach full 2.5Gbps speed even with Iperf. I tried some tuning but that didn’t help, so its fine for now. I used iperf3 -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, nothing else.
The slowdown MUST be related to ZFS, since LVM as a storage base can reach the “full” 2.2Gbps when used as a smb share.
Nevermind, I am an idiot. You’re comment gave me thought and so I checked my testing procedure again. Turns out that, completly by accident, everytime I copied files to the LVM-based NAS, I used the SSD on my PC as the source. In contrast, everytime I copied to the ZFS-based NAS, I used my hard driver as the source. I did that about 10 times. Everything is fine now. THANKS!
Its videos, pictures, music and other data as well. I’ll try playing around with compression today, see if disabeling helps at all. The CPU has 8C/16T and the container 2C/4T.
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Good point. I used fio with different block sizes:
I’m gonna be honest though, I have no idea what to make of these values. Seemingly, the drive is capable of maxing out my network. The CPU shouldn’t be the problem, it’s a i7 10700.
Basically you’re getting 477MB/s for a sequential read, which is spot on for a SATA SSD.
What size are the files you were transferring when you only got 150Mbps? Also did you mean Mb/s or MB/s? There’s an 8x difference between the two.
I meant mega byte (I hope that’s correct I always mix them up). I transferred large videos files, both when the file system was zfs or lvm, yet different transfer speeds. The files were between 500mb to 1.5gb in size
@Pete90 @MangoPenguin Bytes (B) are used for storage, bits (b) are used for network. 1B=8b.
2.5Gbps equals 312.5MBps.
With that in mind, there are a lot of moving parts to diagnose, assuming you want to reach that speed for a transfer. Can the storage of both machines reach that speed? I believe I saw the NAS’s disk tested and clocked at 470ish MBps, but can the client side keep up? I saw the iPerf test, but what was the exact command used? Did you multithread it?
Both machines are easily capable of reaching around 2.2Gbps. I can’t reach full 2.5Gbps speed even with Iperf. I tried some tuning but that didn’t help, so its fine for now. I used
iperf3 -c xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, nothing else.The slowdown MUST be related to ZFS, since LVM as a storage base can reach the “full” 2.2Gbps when used as a smb share.
Nevermind, I am an idiot. You’re comment gave me thought and so I checked my testing procedure again. Turns out that, completly by accident, everytime I copied files to the LVM-based NAS, I used the SSD on my PC as the source. In contrast, everytime I copied to the ZFS-based NAS, I used my hard driver as the source. I did that about 10 times. Everything is fine now. THANKS!
ZFS compression is costing some CPU power for sure. How many cores/threads does your CPU have?
And if it is mostly video files: they are already compressed heavily, so you don’t gain anything with another layer of compression.
Its videos, pictures, music and other data as well. I’ll try playing around with compression today, see if disabeling helps at all. The CPU has 8C/16T and the container 2C/4T.