In the end, the KIA car company made its cars into subscription models, I really hate this because in the end the car we buy with our own money doesn’t feel like it belongs to us.
Should we finally buy an old school car ? so as not to be affected by this subscription models or is there a way to crack the software installed in it ?
These features require the cloud, which costs money and uses carbon. If you don’t want them, as many don’t, you shouldn’t have to force the company to price them in at the purchase.
Based on what others in the thread are saying, that’s already covered for free by the key fob. What they’re charging for is doing it through the internet.
I have a Telluride. I’ve been downgraded to Lite which gives you notifications if you forget to lock your car. But remote start is no longer available.
The way it worked seems to be polling since you could wait around up to a minute for the car to perform a command.
The worst part is the car does not have “local” remote start. I’d have to buy another piece of equipment for that and install it. It’s not available at all on the key fob.
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These features require the cloud, which costs money and uses carbon. If you don’t want them, as many don’t, you shouldn’t have to force the company to price them in at the purchase.
Can you get remote start/climate without a subscription though? Because those do not need the cloud.
How remote are we talking about?
Within Wi-Fi range?
Based on what others in the thread are saying, that’s already covered for free by the key fob. What they’re charging for is doing it through the internet.
I have a Telluride. I’ve been downgraded to Lite which gives you notifications if you forget to lock your car. But remote start is no longer available.
The way it worked seems to be polling since you could wait around up to a minute for the car to perform a command.
The worst part is the car does not have “local” remote start. I’d have to buy another piece of equipment for that and install it. It’s not available at all on the key fob.
If the remote can do it with a local signal, yes, but that’s not the feature in the picture, which uses the app I think.
Subaru offer a certain set of keys for it iirc. Their software is absolute garbage though. Either get an older model or one with physical AC controls.
Install a modchip, or as we used to call them a “remote starter” lol
I’m sure someone still makes a product that you can splice into the wiring harness. And if they don’t… There’s a market for it
No they don’t. You can use WiFi. Or Bluetooth. Or 433Mhz radio.
If you’re in range for these to work, the fob will also turn the car on. These features are useful if you park at a public place or on a large campus.
What if you don’t have a fob?
Then the car needs to do a handshake to a cloud service as I described above.