Girl, you’re saying you trust software that documents security vulnerabilities that don’t apply to you less than one that doesn’t document those vulnerabilities?
A CVE isn’t a black mark on a projects reputation.
Because of the way you misused terms, I’m guessing you’re not particularly familiar with cybersecurity. It’s an ever more important field for sysadmins and devs. I recommend taking the time to learn more.
It’s not worthy of a CVE and whether it applies to me is irrelevant. I didn’t say a CVE is a black mark. Frivolous reporting of CVEs damages trust in the usefulness of the system in identifying critical vulnerabilities. This is a known issue related to resumé padding by newcomers to the cybersecurity industry.
Uh, no. But thanks for guessing. It’s frivolous because it violates several principles of responsible disclosure. Yes, the scope of impact is relevant; the availability of methods of remediation is relevant; and the development/patch lifecycle is relevant. The feature being off-by-default and labeled experimental are indirect references to the scope of impact and availability of remediation, and the latter is an indirect reference to the state of development lifecycle. Per the developer(s)’ words, this is a bug that had limited risk and was scheduled to be fixed as part of the normal development schedule. Escalating every such bug, of which the vast majority go without a CVE, would quickly drown out notices that people actually care about. A CVE is not a bug report.
“Uh, no. The CVE is valid, but it’s not about that.” You say, scrambling. “The dev cycle! It was already scheduled for release, so it’s not necessary to disclose. If everyone disclosed security bugs, we’d have too much information and we wouldn’t be able to filter for the notices we care about.” You retort, not realizing that you had already conceded that this wasn’t about the fact you didn’t care about the CVE, and instead arguing that less information is better rather than building tools to cope with the number of CVEs that are increasing regardless of their relevance to you personally.
I didn’t say the CVE was valid. I explained why it was a mistake. I didn’t say “disclosing security bugs” is, in general, a bad thing, I said raising undue alarm about a specific class of bugs is bad. It’s not a matter of “less or more information,” because as I said, a CVE is not a bug report. It is not simply “acknowledgment of information.” If you think my argument has no merit and there is no reason why “more information” could be worse, you’re free to talk to someone who gives a shit.
It’s not a matter of “less or more information[…]”
Escalating every such bug […] would quickly drown out notices that people actually care about.
If your argument is that a specific class of security bugs aren’t worth CVEs, then make that argument. Instead, you’re saying the CVE isn’t valid and making an argument about the risk assessment and development lifecycle (as if those aren’t part of a CVE) and not the class of security bug.
I have, this entire time, said it’s a valid CVE that you don’t care about and that you shouldn’t be working as a cybersecurity professional. You have conceded the first point and continued to demonstrate the later.
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Girl, you’re saying you trust software that documents security vulnerabilities that don’t apply to you less than one that doesn’t document those vulnerabilities?
A CVE isn’t a black mark on a projects reputation.
Because of the way you misused terms, I’m guessing you’re not particularly familiar with cybersecurity. It’s an ever more important field for sysadmins and devs. I recommend taking the time to learn more.
It’s not worthy of a CVE and whether it applies to me is irrelevant. I didn’t say a CVE is a black mark. Frivolous reporting of CVEs damages trust in the usefulness of the system in identifying critical vulnerabilities. This is a known issue related to resumé padding by newcomers to the cybersecurity industry.
“Frivolous” “Frivolous” “Frivolous”
Is it because it’s a DOS? No. That’s valid.
Feature off by default? No, that still warrants CVE.
Feature labeled Beta or Experimental? Nope, still warranted.
You must be one of those newcomers big mad F5 now has control of the record and you can’t pad your cv.
Uh, no. But thanks for guessing. It’s frivolous because it violates several principles of responsible disclosure. Yes, the scope of impact is relevant; the availability of methods of remediation is relevant; and the development/patch lifecycle is relevant. The feature being off-by-default and labeled experimental are indirect references to the scope of impact and availability of remediation, and the latter is an indirect reference to the state of development lifecycle. Per the developer(s)’ words, this is a bug that had limited risk and was scheduled to be fixed as part of the normal development schedule. Escalating every such bug, of which the vast majority go without a CVE, would quickly drown out notices that people actually care about. A CVE is not a bug report.
“Uh, no. The CVE is valid, but it’s not about that.” You say, scrambling. “The dev cycle! It was already scheduled for release, so it’s not necessary to disclose. If everyone disclosed security bugs, we’d have too much information and we wouldn’t be able to filter for the notices we care about.” You retort, not realizing that you had already conceded that this wasn’t about the fact you didn’t care about the CVE, and instead arguing that less information is better rather than building tools to cope with the number of CVEs that are increasing regardless of their relevance to you personally.
I didn’t say the CVE was valid. I explained why it was a mistake. I didn’t say “disclosing security bugs” is, in general, a bad thing, I said raising undue alarm about a specific class of bugs is bad. It’s not a matter of “less or more information,” because as I said, a CVE is not a bug report. It is not simply “acknowledgment of information.” If you think my argument has no merit and there is no reason why “more information” could be worse, you’re free to talk to someone who gives a shit.
lol and you said you weren’t big mad.
If your argument is that a specific class of security bugs aren’t worth CVEs, then make that argument. Instead, you’re saying the CVE isn’t valid and making an argument about the risk assessment and development lifecycle (as if those aren’t part of a CVE) and not the class of security bug.
I have, this entire time, said it’s a valid CVE that you don’t care about and that you shouldn’t be working as a cybersecurity professional. You have conceded the first point and continued to demonstrate the later.