I understand why they did what they did and it makes me think of how db0 and other admins are saying fuck all and taking a very big liability for making and supporting a free internet and i want to say all the work you do is very much appreciated. Also shoutout to lemmy.ml admins for running a similar community on their own .
Links for supporting the db0 server and do consider donating as it is running behind on expenses.
I’m talking about the broader implications of meta integration being the possible driving force behind the multiple defederations, not specifically this, the latest, which would be included as part of a larger “cleanup”.
I think (as their open communications on the subject have indicated) that they prefer to keep their legal liability profile slim. In the end, no matter how many users you have in your instance, you’re still alone in that court room against the monopolies that represent content rights holders.
From what I can tell they (at least the older admins and Ruud) seem to have no love for Meta, but they aren’t chicken little about it either. Federated or not, Meta can easily scrape Lemmy data, so if you mean that .world defederated to pretty up their image and make themselves attractive to Meta, I just don’t see the point, but also, it seems like a conspiracy theory to me.
There’s a piece on TF about a website that closed down years ago, and has been acquitted four times of their “crimes” of linking (as opposed to hosting), and due to a new definition of “communicate” is being sued a fifth time. The sue-happy rights holders have no compunction against going back to destroy anyone they perceive at any time to have infringed “their” works. Look at Reddit, still defending users against identification for doing what? Saying their ISP was lenient about DMCA notices. To protect against that garbage, you have to be careful, and perhaps remove content you agree with to CYA.
Thanks for this context. I myself have been looking around for info and excepting old posts from months ago i have failed. Perhaps the dmca request is more because they are the largest and highest visibility then? Thanks again
Yeah. I have a lot of concerns over how much market share .world has and some of the really questionable things the admins have done (removing protections related to hate speech from their TOS, having a policy of wiping all comments of a user and accusing them of pretty heinous shit, etc).
But I 100% support this particular action. We run VPNs and use burner emails when we pirate stuff. They don’t really have that luxury due to the nature of web hosting. So kudos to the instance owners who are willing to play with fire on our behalf but… I sure wouldn’t.
Excellent and appropriate point to make. The real problem is with the deference that copyright and “IP” are given in courts around the world, and the way trade agreements force members to adopt similar stances in their legislation and prosecution. Even if IPFS can help our cause in some way, the industry will waste no time criminalizing it.
.world admin definitely directly defended nazis (literal promotion of direct nazi policies and whatnot, not ‘I don’t like you so you’re nazi’)
I linked to aforementioned content posted by a fellow community mod and politely asked if he could be removed and I got instantly banned from the whole instance.
Like, a no would’ve sufficed 😂 just banning me from the instance definitely just makes me think you agree with it.
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.
Feels like .world is defedding from errybody. Eventually theyre gonna be like aol (or some other more recent, relevant walled garden).
Do y’all think this “cleaning up” has to do with their META threads integration?
Do you have a link to this? That sounds extremely alarming, I did not realize they had done that.
I was going off this info, and was being a bit chicken little (but that position has been working for me LoL) Here’s that link
https://www.theverge.com/24106231/threads-fediverse-demo-meta-fediforum
I got a reply from stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.com further down that sounded like they knew more than me about the situation.
Im sticking to my deffedding for now, and I’ll wait to hear is the sky is falling from my tinfoil bunker
You mean as opposed to their stated reason: DMCA?
I’m talking about the broader implications of meta integration being the possible driving force behind the multiple defederations, not specifically this, the latest, which would be included as part of a larger “cleanup”.
Awesome username, BTW
I think (as their open communications on the subject have indicated) that they prefer to keep their legal liability profile slim. In the end, no matter how many users you have in your instance, you’re still alone in that court room against the monopolies that represent content rights holders.
From what I can tell they (at least the older admins and Ruud) seem to have no love for Meta, but they aren’t chicken little about it either. Federated or not, Meta can easily scrape Lemmy data, so if you mean that .world defederated to pretty up their image and make themselves attractive to Meta, I just don’t see the point, but also, it seems like a conspiracy theory to me.
There’s a piece on TF about a website that closed down years ago, and has been acquitted four times of their “crimes” of linking (as opposed to hosting), and due to a new definition of “communicate” is being sued a fifth time. The sue-happy rights holders have no compunction against going back to destroy anyone they perceive at any time to have infringed “their” works. Look at Reddit, still defending users against identification for doing what? Saying their ISP was lenient about DMCA notices. To protect against that garbage, you have to be careful, and perhaps remove content you agree with to CYA.
Thanks for this context. I myself have been looking around for info and excepting old posts from months ago i have failed. Perhaps the dmca request is more because they are the largest and highest visibility then? Thanks again
Yeah. I have a lot of concerns over how much market share .world has and some of the really questionable things the admins have done (removing protections related to hate speech from their TOS, having a policy of wiping all comments of a user and accusing them of pretty heinous shit, etc).
But I 100% support this particular action. We run VPNs and use burner emails when we pirate stuff. They don’t really have that luxury due to the nature of web hosting. So kudos to the instance owners who are willing to play with fire on our behalf but… I sure wouldn’t.
Excellent and appropriate point to make. The real problem is with the deference that copyright and “IP” are given in courts around the world, and the way trade agreements force members to adopt similar stances in their legislation and prosecution. Even if IPFS can help our cause in some way, the industry will waste no time criminalizing it.
Sigh… 46 and 2
.world admin definitely directly defended nazis (literal promotion of direct nazi policies and whatnot, not ‘I don’t like you so you’re nazi’)
I linked to aforementioned content posted by a fellow community mod and politely asked if he could be removed and I got instantly banned from the whole instance.
Like, a no would’ve sufficed 😂 just banning me from the instance definitely just makes me think you agree with it.
.world is basically just the losers who got upset that it was too difficult to be a reddit mod since they didn’t have enough power
I think bad actors have infiltrated their admin team and are pushing their own agenda.
Lots of useful idiots want to ban discussion of piracy because it makes them realize how they’re getting ripped off.
Nobody wants to acknowledge how they’re being taken for a ride, especially useful idiots.
I am specifically not on world because they want me to sign up with my real email address. Nty, deanonymizing fucks.
deleted by creator
Wait, they are federating with Threads? I thought everyone, even single-user instances blocked them. WTF?
Yeah, this is why users should get to decide which instances they get to see.
Let’s be our own moderators instead of relying on useful idiots to do it for us.