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A group’s value is then determined by the most serious count in that group. Then, separate groups are combined in a way that is not as simple as adding the groups together. This United States Sentencing Commission PDF document explains how that combining is done. And this YouTube video explains more about how the severity of each charge is calculated and what that means in terms of time in prison, through the lens of explaining what it would mean if Trump were to be found guilty of all the charges laid on him in relation to the retention of classified documents.
I’m not even going to begin to try to work out how that would be applied here, because I am woefully unqualified. But I doubt it would actually be anywhere near 175 years for Assange even if found guilty on all charges and given the harshest interpretation of the sentencing guidelines.
That’s nice, but it’s only a list of “currently presented” charges, with none of the “potentially other” charges.
Keep in mind that federal felony charges involving the death penalty, like treason (¹), have no statute of limitations. He could easily get extradited, found either not guilty, or that the crimes have prescribed, or pardoned… then charged with treason and executed.
Espionage can result in a death penalty but it’s currently the case that the UK (courts) would like a guarantee from the US (lol) that he won’t be executed. Other than that I think it’s over 100 years and they can add more charges when he arrives.
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This thread is a garbage fire - a bunch of people who didn’t look anything up (or if they did, they cite no sources, so there’s no evidence they did) spouting a bunch of mutually contradictory shit, all of it upvoted. I will never understand why anyone engages with Lemmy this way.
Here is the list of US charges against Assange, from the actual paperwork charging him.
As you can see here, each of the first 17 charges has a maximum penalty of 10 years (not including fines).
Charge 18 is messier. Under USC 371 the max is 5 years. I believe USC 1030 is also capped at 5 years.
So roughly a 175 year sentence, at cap.
Sentencing guidelines usually have specific rules for whether sentences would be run concurrently or consecutively. Charges are grouped if:
A group’s value is then determined by the most serious count in that group. Then, separate groups are combined in a way that is not as simple as adding the groups together. This United States Sentencing Commission PDF document explains how that combining is done. And this YouTube video explains more about how the severity of each charge is calculated and what that means in terms of time in prison, through the lens of explaining what it would mean if Trump were to be found guilty of all the charges laid on him in relation to the retention of classified documents.
I’m not even going to begin to try to work out how that would be applied here, because I am woefully unqualified. But I doubt it would actually be anywhere near 175 years for Assange even if found guilty on all charges and given the harshest interpretation of the sentencing guidelines.
That’s nice, but it’s only a list of “currently presented” charges, with none of the “potentially other” charges.
Keep in mind that federal felony charges involving the death penalty, like treason (¹), have no statute of limitations. He could easily get extradited, found either not guilty, or that the crimes have prescribed, or pardoned… then charged with treason and executed.
(¹: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_laws_in_the_United_States )
Treason is a crime you can only commit against your own country. The US can’t accuse a non-US citizen of treason…
probably life or execution
if maximum sentence was like 3 years or something I’m sure he’d have bought his own plane ticket
I wouldnt be surprised if this is the type of “crime” where whatever they want to happen to him happens.
If they want life or death to stop others from doing similar then that will happen.
It doesn’t matter because US prisons are so bad he would probably die in prison. This is why the UK has been hesitant to extradite him.
Espionage can result in a death penalty but it’s currently the case that the UK (courts) would like a guarantee from the US (lol) that he won’t be executed. Other than that I think it’s over 100 years and they can add more charges when he arrives.
They’re a country that’s known to use torture and secret courts. They still have Guantanamo which is one big human rights violation.
That would be my concern.