Canada boasts the 9th largest economy, pristine environmental standards, a robust legal framework, universal healthcare, world class education, and numerous ...

Canada boasts the 9th largest economy, pristine environmental standards, a robust legal framework, universal healthcare, world class education, and numerous …

You think I can just move country and it wouldn’t cost anything? I’m Canadian and this country is a disgrace. If I could leave I would. Edit: I’m native and saying I’d leave if I could. Instead of downvoting, reflect on how bad you colonized and fucked up my continent

hey if you hate it, beat feet and make room for someone who’s life is threatened and needs to get away from an authoritarian hellscape by seeking asylum in canada. it’s a two-fer, you get out of the place you hate and someone else gets to live someplace they won’t be hunted.

Did you just tell a native person to leave the country if it doesn’t like your colonial bullshit?

I mean I’ll go back to where me and my people came from. Walks two steps. Now you.

One, not canadian.

two, not telling you to go HOME, you’re telling me your home is becoming untenable, I’m advising you leave an untenable situation.

this isn’t colonialism. I didn’t make the choices that hurt you. I don’t have a vote there. Haven’t visited since 1987 ffs lol.

I like how you interpreted what I stated as colonialism when actually I’m pointing out that canada’s better for most folk than 98% of the other authoritarian hellscapes. As a native, Canada is doing you wrong. But it’s not better elsewhere, and in many places, it’s much, much worse, for example, the US.

Y’all are doing hellscapes on easy mode. Get some real republican melanin hating conservatives who take women’s reproductive rights away, threaten civil war with their arsenals, and try to overthrow your elected officials, then we can talk shop.

Good luck.

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reflect on how bad you colonized and fucked up my continent

By “my continent”, I presume that you are referring to the idea that the indigenous peoples were the first ones to arrive in North America, and, by extension, you apply the first possession principle? Also, for clarity, what exactly does “my continent” refer to, in terms of lands?

Why do you think this country is a disgrace?

Cause I’m of native background and was raised being told about the greatness, acceptance and generosity of Canada. Then I grew up and found out about native genocides, Confederate Amnesty, residential schools, John a MacDonald. I grew up into a Canada where food prices are through the roof because we’re being robbed and our governments don’t care. Higher education is unaffordable to anyone without wealthy parents, housing is pathetic, wages are a joke. Our premieres don’t care and push the buck to the feds, and the feds are off in another hemisphere giving away money and worrying about citizens of every nation but the one they’ve been elected to govern. Canadians are drowning and our elected officials can’t be bothered to even pretend they give a fuck.

It seems most the problems you’re talking about are global problems though.

Where do you think you’ll have a better quality of life?

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It seems most the problems you’re talking about are global problems though.

Which problems that they mentioned do you think are global, and why?

The original comment that I responded to was about inflation, food costs and housing costs.

Those are all global problems.

I’m not getting into what they changed their comment to because I don’t know enough about it.

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The original comment that I responded to was about inflation, food costs and housing costs.

Those are all global problems.

How would you argue that they are global problems? (please don’t interperet that as condescending, or accusatory — I am simply curious. It is hard to convey emotion through text)

How would you argue inflation, food costs and housing costs aren’t a global problem.

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I think I may have misinterpereted your argument. When you said

It seems most the problems you’re talking about are global problems though.

Where do you think you’ll have a better quality of life? [source]

were you arguing that most countries have the same problems as Canada, so to immigrate elswhere would be futile? I was under the presumption that you were arguing that Canada can’t do anything to fix it’s issues, and that it would instead require some global collaborative effort.

You’re being fooled by the government’s normalization of hopelessness.

No, I spend a lot of time travelling and I see the problems you are talking about aren’t limited just to Canada.

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food prices are through the roof because we’re being robbed

Would you mind clarifying what you mean by this?

Higher education is unaffordable to anyone without wealthy parents

Based on what are you making this claim? The Canadian Government and the provincial governments provide loans and financial support to students, which should be able to cover all expenses for an average post secondary institution [source] [source]. Furthermore, the Canadian government provides extra support for Indigenous Peoples [source].

You don’t get it do you. When I was college age, I could pay for my entire education with $15k. Which I thought was a lot. My child will have to take out loans for like x10 that amount and it will destroy her future before it even begins.

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My child will have to take out loans for like x10 that amount and it will destroy her future before it even begins.

It depends on where one goes — not all post secondary institutions charge the same amounts. Generally, the fancier/more reputable schools will charge the most. It is quite possible to complete undergrad in Canada for <30k CAD (not including living and transportation expenses). Also, keep in mind that inflation is innevitable — the Government of Canada targets an inflation rate of 2% per year [source].

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