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I’m in this comment, and I don’t like it. I still fix “computers” for a living, but when I get home, most days, the last tech I want to interact with is anything more complex than my phone.
Which is actually extremely complex…
Edit: the phone not the interaction
Unless they’re interacting with a landline.
Which, to be fair, is still pretty complex.
I almost clarified “in external form”, but you’ve really hit the nail on the head.