I think Ryan McBeth on his YT channel said the real reason for it.
The cluster munition aren’t that useful for trenches and not useful for offensive when there’s even a small dud rate (it’s not 40% like with Russian cluster bombs, but 2% adds up if you would fire it many times) and you don’t want your own soldiers to be blown up by own munition when they advance.
But, if you take the missile, open it up, you get 88 bombs, that can penetrate 4cm of steel. Strap them to a drone and they can be quite scary. Also since they are fired individually, they don’t hit each other when falling down which is the primary reason for duds.
No, the answer is that the US needs to stay the fuck out of it. It’s not our war. It’s not our fight. It has nothing to do with us. As much as the US likes to act like it, we’re not World Police. We shouldn’t be sending anything, much less munitions that are rightly banned my most of the rest of the world
It’s not our war. It’s not our fight. It has nothing to do with us.
That’s where you’re wrong. America has a global empire, and Russia is one of the other powers trying to undermine and dismantle it. If America wants to keep its empire and the many benefits it brings, it has no choice but to defend it. Be thankful you’re only having to spend money while someone else is spending lives.
I think you will find that the liberal-capitalist world order with some semblance of norms like national self determination and resistance to overt nationalistic annexation does benefit the US.
Note that I’m not saying I like this world order, or the US politic. But your assertion looks false to my eyes. Even if there was no moral issue of enabling Ukrainian self defense because Ukrainian self defense is a moral good, the USA benefits from preventing authoritarian regimes from using military force to swallow up their neighbors. And so do the European countries.
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I wish that countries that are condemning cluster munitions actually send non-cluster munitions to Ukraine.
US isn’t doing this because they want to, but because there are no other ammo left and ammo production is still ramping up.
I think Ryan McBeth on his YT channel said the real reason for it.
The cluster munition aren’t that useful for trenches and not useful for offensive when there’s even a small dud rate (it’s not 40% like with Russian cluster bombs, but 2% adds up if you would fire it many times) and you don’t want your own soldiers to be blown up by own munition when they advance.
But, if you take the missile, open it up, you get 88 bombs, that can penetrate 4cm of steel. Strap them to a drone and they can be quite scary. Also since they are fired individually, they don’t hit each other when falling down which is the primary reason for duds.
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No, the answer is that the US needs to stay the fuck out of it. It’s not our war. It’s not our fight. It has nothing to do with us. As much as the US likes to act like it, we’re not World Police. We shouldn’t be sending anything, much less munitions that are rightly banned my most of the rest of the world
That’s where you’re wrong. America has a global empire, and Russia is one of the other powers trying to undermine and dismantle it. If America wants to keep its empire and the many benefits it brings, it has no choice but to defend it. Be thankful you’re only having to spend money while someone else is spending lives.
I think you will find that the liberal-capitalist world order with some semblance of norms like national self determination and resistance to overt nationalistic annexation does benefit the US.
Note that I’m not saying I like this world order, or the US politic. But your assertion looks false to my eyes. Even if there was no moral issue of enabling Ukrainian self defense because Ukrainian self defense is a moral good, the USA benefits from preventing authoritarian regimes from using military force to swallow up their neighbors. And so do the European countries.
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