I’m new to the fediverse as well. I checked out a few other ones, Kbin, Mastadon, etc. I definitely like Lemmy the best. It’s the most “Reddit like.” Say what you may about Reddit, but it has some nice features.
If Reddit hadn’t decided to make it impossible for third party apps to use the API then we’d all still be there. I honestly really miss it. I just cannot support a company that doesn’t value people who have supported it (users, mods and developers).
TL;DR: They demodded OP, the founder (I think?), of /r/piracy to force them to reopen. This shows that Reddit thinks it’s very important for users to have access to piracy information and a place to discuss piracy on the platform.
This is tacit support for posting piracy on Reddit, and, really, the only reason not to list direct link to pirated content is now gone since the threat of taking the sub private is what “we” want anyway. I suppose you could also get your account banned from Reddit, too.
I’m not a lawyer, but I wonder about legal challenges this opens Reddit to. It would be amazing if Disney now sued Reddit for encouraging piracy of their content. You can definitely trust Disney to be lawsuit happy assholes, right? I’d get a lot of shadenfreud from that.
Reddit built their whole business on unpaid janitors. That’s the thanks people get for working free. Anyway they just keep doubling down, has to be a conspiracy.
The best troll would be to just openly allow actual direct link piracy on /r/piracy. if reddit bans /r/piracy, then it functionally re-privates the sub (the thing they wanted to avoid). And if they allow it, then it’s a bastion of actual piracy. win-win!
Never been an /r/piracy user, but this is so obviously the correct response that I feel embarrassed I didn’t think of it as soon as I saw this drama being posted here.
Is the instance giving anyone else timeouts and just sluggish?
Also, is there a group for kali linux and such on lemmy already? I need to start adding back all my groups again. Also curious about NSFW stuff on lemmy.
Looks like this one is in Germany (lemmy.dbzer0.com). I’m in the USA and I was getting big lags and sluggish response. I found one in my region and it’s very snappy (lemmy.one). When you find a close instance, you can search for non-local communities and subscribe to them that way, just select the “all” button next to the communities search box.
Doing a reverse lookup on the IP shows a German (.de) registrar and nameserver so I would guess Germany, but it’s entirely possible to have registration and server locations in different countries. Maybe our Captain could tell us, but I don’t know if that’s sensitive information.
It is in Germany. Look at the owner of that IP. Contabo.de. They rent Proxmox VMs for incredibly cheap (6 euro/month for 4 cores, 8 GBs of RAM and 200GB SSD), I have one of them as well.
The bootlicking on that post (in a PIRACY sub nonetheless) is wild. Lots of “you don’t understand, Reddit is a COMPANY! 😭” I’ve peeked in on Reddit a bit and I’ve been seeing those kinds of “won’t somebody think of the shaaaareholdersss and adminss” comments on a few posts related to the protest. Things like this insightful little nugget:
“Seems all the reddit hate is based solely on reddit doing something similar to twitter, and I’m supposed to be upset cause “Elon man bad”? Tons of APIs cost money to use… build your own platform that freely allows everyone to scrape all “your” content, lead by example please…”
I wonder how many of those are Reddit employees and bots? They can’t all be u/spez alts, can they?
Oh and this is fun too, did you know that we’re all LiTeRaLlY extremists over here?
" Lemmy is very far-left. They are literally extremists, I’ll not be part of that shit."
Guess Reddit is going to be taken over by alt-right trolls too.
Edit: Still figuring out how the formatting works over here.
It’s already going down that road. Many of the subreddits have already become either a strongly neoliberal (r/news, r/politics, r/whitepeopletwitter) or strongly neoconservative (r/libertarian, r/guns) echo chamber courtesy of dogpiling, astroturfing, and mod replacements.
Reddit would be thrilled by that, especially Spez; he’ll need some willing slaves for his post-apocalyptic dreams to come true, and goddamn if those rightoids wouldn’t be thrilled to lick his boots and make his meals.
Across reddit a lot of astroturfing is going on - its not all real users. Lots of sheep out there, only takes a few shills to steer them in the desired direction by creating the appearance of a majority.
Its the same culture that causes people to type out a post, but then delete it for fear of the reaction for sharing an opinion. Thats something that doesn’t seem to happen with Lemmy and I hope the mass of reddit users migrating doesn’t bring that with them.
I agree with all of this. I definitely think at least some of them are astroturfing. The mods from r/adviceanimals got kicked and ever since then, they mostly post memes that say things like “the official app isn’t so bad, you guys!” We all know u/spez isn’t above editing comments for petty reasons and since he got caught, I’m sure he’s more careful about not getting caught editing things to suit him now. I wonder if the voting system is rigged, too, at least in some subs.
We’ve already seen comments that suspiciously resemble ChatGPT output and ever since reddit keeps mass-restoring my deleted posts and comments I fully expect that most of their praises are from bots.
I see that the trolls I was talking about are managing to find their way to Lemmy. They never have any actual insightful things to say, it’s just reducing your arguments to the most simplified version and repeating them back in a childish condescending way. It’s almost like…that’s not all the protest is about? Not sure if these are just kids trying to be edgy, or if they’re working for Reddit, or if they’re just u/spez being petty. I try to be an empathetic person, but I have a really hard time understanding thinking it’s fun to belittle people for caring about things. It’s such a waste of energy. If you need attention, learn a skill and impress people with it, I assure you it’s a much more fulfilling way to get people to notice you. I hope these people can get the emotional support they need someday.
About the politics, that’s worth reading from the developers:
On another topic, there are rumors circulating that we are fascists or supported genocide. These claims are completely false, and like most viral twitter threads, are coming from a single Mastodon user on a personal vendetta who didn’t provide any sources. Such slander doesn’t deserve any response and is best left ignored. If you want to know the truth then read the following pages (both from 2021):
As you can see we are not a faceless corporation that is accomodating to everyone. We are individuals with our own opinions. If you disagree with these, it is no problem! You can still freely use the Lemmy software on different instances. If you host your own instance, we have no control over it at all and are unable to censor what users say. For more details read the documentation on censorship resistance. In practice, the instance list already contains various instances whose content would be banned from lemmy.ml immediately.
Im happy the community is still alive. This sub has been the only place I go to on reddit (aside from other Piracy subreddits). Till death do us part mates
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.
I should probably check out mastodon too finally since I’ve made the plunge into lemmy already.
Mastodon is pretty good to be honest. And I hated Twitter.
Do you have an Android Mastodon app you recommend? I see a bunch looking through F-droid.
I’ve been pretty happy with Tusky
I hope Tusky is not run by Elon Tusk ;D
I’m new to the fediverse as well. I checked out a few other ones, Kbin, Mastadon, etc. I definitely like Lemmy the best. It’s the most “Reddit like.” Say what you may about Reddit, but it has some nice features.
If Reddit hadn’t decided to make it impossible for third party apps to use the API then we’d all still be there. I honestly really miss it. I just cannot support a company that doesn’t value people who have supported it (users, mods and developers).
Same here, I’ve learned a lot thanks to reddit and that’s why I feel like I’ve been stabbed in the back.
Whenever I google something and need to access a Reddit link, I do it using Google’s cache to minimize damages.
Mastodon is Twatter/Facebook. Lemmy is Reddit
Mastodon is Twitter, if you want facebook I’d recommend Friendica
You wouldn’t download a subreddit, would you?
I most definitely did and helped the Data Hoarder archive.
Can someone loop me in. Did reddit admins really do this?
Edit: wording
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35555
This is my first time linking to Lemmy from Lemmy. Hopefully, that works.
Edit: Cool. old.reddit link syntax works, too.
TL;DR: They demodded OP, the founder (I think?), of /r/piracy to force them to reopen. This shows that Reddit thinks it’s very important for users to have access to piracy information and a place to discuss piracy on the platform.
This is tacit support for posting piracy on Reddit, and, really, the only reason not to list direct link to pirated content is now gone since the threat of taking the sub private is what “we” want anyway. I suppose you could also get your account banned from Reddit, too.
I’m not a lawyer, but I wonder about legal challenges this opens Reddit to. It would be amazing if Disney now sued Reddit for encouraging piracy of their content. You can definitely trust Disney to be lawsuit happy assholes, right? I’d get a lot of shadenfreud from that.
they forced Multiple subs open like r/steam , r/pics but they opened in a funny way and more.
Some of the Reddit jannitors simply opened back up as soon as they got threatened to loose their unpaid Janitor role.
Reddit built their whole business on unpaid janitors. That’s the thanks people get for working free. Anyway they just keep doubling down, has to be a conspiracy.
Based db0
wait this was a troll post?
Kinda is, calling out Reddit and promoting a competitor is a bit trollish.
I asked as well. The post isn’t false. It just employs trolling behavior
The best troll would be to just openly allow actual direct link piracy on /r/piracy. if reddit bans /r/piracy, then it functionally re-privates the sub (the thing they wanted to avoid). And if they allow it, then it’s a bastion of actual piracy. win-win!
That is a galaxy brain move.
I like the idea of trying to get as many DMCA requests against it as possible so that reddit has to deal with them
“Scuttle the ship”
they wanted it open lol
but then they could simply put in their own mods. remove the original team and make the rules whatever they want while keeping it open
Never been an /r/piracy user, but this is so obviously the correct response that I feel embarrassed I didn’t think of it as soon as I saw this drama being posted here.
Problem is, if it’s privated or open, they can still point users to this community
Not possible if it’s banned; another would probably take its place
Yep, I found a new home here because of your post, so thank you
You are always welcome here!
Is the instance giving anyone else timeouts and just sluggish?
Also, is there a group for kali linux and such on lemmy already? I need to start adding back all my groups again. Also curious about NSFW stuff on lemmy.
Looks like this one is in Germany (lemmy.dbzer0.com). I’m in the USA and I was getting big lags and sluggish response. I found one in my region and it’s very snappy (lemmy.one). When you find a close instance, you can search for non-local communities and subscribe to them that way, just select the “all” button next to the communities search box.
if DB zero would be in germany its gone fast lol iam german and our police and Politicans rate Piracy worse than some crimes
Doing a reverse lookup on the IP shows a German (.de) registrar and nameserver so I would guess Germany, but it’s entirely possible to have registration and server locations in different countries. Maybe our Captain could tell us, but I don’t know if that’s sensitive information.
It is in Germany. Look at the owner of that IP. Contabo.de. They rent Proxmox VMs for incredibly cheap (6 euro/month for 4 cores, 8 GBs of RAM and 200GB SSD), I have one of them as well.
Reddit trolls reddit, it serves them right.
The bootlicking on that post (in a PIRACY sub nonetheless) is wild. Lots of “you don’t understand, Reddit is a COMPANY! 😭” I’ve peeked in on Reddit a bit and I’ve been seeing those kinds of “won’t somebody think of the shaaaareholdersss and adminss” comments on a few posts related to the protest. Things like this insightful little nugget:
I wonder how many of those are Reddit employees and bots? They can’t all be u/spez alts, can they?
Oh and this is fun too, did you know that we’re all LiTeRaLlY extremists over here?
Guess Reddit is going to be taken over by alt-right trolls too.
Edit: Still figuring out how the formatting works over here.
Would be fabulous if the only users left on reddit were the alt-right nutters.
Reddit becoming voat is not on my bingo card but stranger things have happened this year…
It’s already going down that road. Many of the subreddits have already become either a strongly neoliberal (r/news, r/politics, r/whitepeopletwitter) or strongly neoconservative (r/libertarian, r/guns) echo chamber courtesy of dogpiling, astroturfing, and mod replacements.
Reddit would be thrilled by that, especially Spez; he’ll need some willing slaves for his post-apocalyptic dreams to come true, and goddamn if those rightoids wouldn’t be thrilled to lick his boots and make his meals.
Across reddit a lot of astroturfing is going on - its not all real users. Lots of sheep out there, only takes a few shills to steer them in the desired direction by creating the appearance of a majority.
Its the same culture that causes people to type out a post, but then delete it for fear of the reaction for sharing an opinion. Thats something that doesn’t seem to happen with Lemmy and I hope the mass of reddit users migrating doesn’t bring that with them.
I agree with all of this. I definitely think at least some of them are astroturfing. The mods from r/adviceanimals got kicked and ever since then, they mostly post memes that say things like “the official app isn’t so bad, you guys!” We all know u/spez isn’t above editing comments for petty reasons and since he got caught, I’m sure he’s more careful about not getting caught editing things to suit him now. I wonder if the voting system is rigged, too, at least in some subs.
We’ve already seen comments that suspiciously resemble ChatGPT output and ever since reddit keeps mass-restoring my deleted posts and comments I fully expect that most of their praises are from bots.
I see that the trolls I was talking about are managing to find their way to Lemmy. They never have any actual insightful things to say, it’s just reducing your arguments to the most simplified version and repeating them back in a childish condescending way. It’s almost like…that’s not all the protest is about? Not sure if these are just kids trying to be edgy, or if they’re working for Reddit, or if they’re just u/spez being petty. I try to be an empathetic person, but I have a really hard time understanding thinking it’s fun to belittle people for caring about things. It’s such a waste of energy. If you need attention, learn a skill and impress people with it, I assure you it’s a much more fulfilling way to get people to notice you. I hope these people can get the emotional support they need someday.
https://i.imgur.com/Ed4ufIc.gifv
Haha, that worked for Fox News in the USA.
That’s the problem, corporate interest. We’d all be better served by a community open source platform like the Fediverse, politics aside.
About the politics, that’s worth reading from the developers:
Source: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_after_the_Reddit_blackout
Im happy the community is still alive. This sub has been the only place I go to on reddit (aside from other Piracy subreddits). Till death do us part mates
Hail Hydra
Hail HydroHomies!