I don’t know man. Where I live the law says it’s not stealing. It says: legal to share, illegal to share for profit. On other words: legal to share, illegal to sell.
Most pirated content is pornography. While I do consider those performers and creators “artists,” the victims of piracy are the corporations and production companies that sell pornography. This is an industry rife with corruption and exploitation. The artists actually benefit from the, ahem, exposure, and the same can be said for television, movie, and music industries. Artists want people to pay to experience their art, but artists are better able to sell their art when the artist is well known. GoT was the most pirated TV show at it’s peak popularity, and the creatos said it was better for viewership than winning an Emmy.
Yes, piracy is analogous to stealing, semantics notwithstanding. But when art is a commodity, the capitalist, not the artist, is the primary beneficiary.
When you purchase a movie or show you’re still not paying digital artists. You’re paying some corporation who cooks their books to make profit disappear so they can keep it all for themselves. Have you not been following the writer/actor strike currently happening?
“But I want to support those little poor billionares, who’s going to look after their livehood and ethical buisness?”
The more you pay for big brands, whatever product you buy, be it clothes, food, or any form of knowledge, the more you drive up the sales, the more you reinforce the idea that money is a tool only a few chosen are rightful of having, just like the riches and the labour of the many. (Buy from local producers as much as you can)
Ironically enough, pirating makes people more aware of what it consumes, what labor is and mostly to get to support creators directly for what they put out. You can’t steal from corporations, you only get back the unpaid /underpaid labour of many. Quality content and effort should be rewarded, so please support/help your creators in any way you can.
I’m so split on this as a person who has dated (for a long while) a guy who works in wardrobe on film and TV sets. Yes i still pirate, but i also buy the things i love and appreciate. I know those sales go into his pay and unfortunately those billionaires pockets.
The way I see it is that piracy IS stealing. Not of the digital items but of the income that they potentially would have had.
But I just don’t give a fuck
The word “potentially” is doing a lot of work there.
In many cases of piracy, the result of not pirating the work would not have been more income for the rights holder, it would have been the person just not acquiring a copy of the work at all.
In that way, taxes can steal income from me that I potentially would’ve had if they didn’t exist, and if I could then spend that income on another service now the taxes stole it from that service
I’m sorry, but I read your comment and didn’t find it interesting. I’ll have to sue you for the incredible things that I could’ve potentially done in these 10 seconds you stole from me, like buying a winning lottery ticket. /s
Noooo, you can’t just steal MY Declaration of Lemmy Independence that I stole downloaded. Hello, Lemmy Police? This fucking Lemming just stole MY document!
I am proud of pirating and I don’t get why people who also pirate would have a problem with that. Like you think it’s wrong and do it anyway, but think people who don’t think it’s wrong are cringe somehow? What’s wrong with standing up for what you believe in?
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I don’t know man. Where I live the law says it’s not stealing. It says: legal to share, illegal to share for profit. On other words: legal to share, illegal to sell.
And where would that be?
EU.
Well…Where he lives… /shrug
ITT: people trying to find legal loopholes to try and justify not paying digital artists for thier work
Lol “digital artists.”
Most pirated content is pornography. While I do consider those performers and creators “artists,” the victims of piracy are the corporations and production companies that sell pornography. This is an industry rife with corruption and exploitation. The artists actually benefit from the, ahem, exposure, and the same can be said for television, movie, and music industries. Artists want people to pay to experience their art, but artists are better able to sell their art when the artist is well known. GoT was the most pirated TV show at it’s peak popularity, and the creatos said it was better for viewership than winning an Emmy.
Yes, piracy is analogous to stealing, semantics notwithstanding. But when art is a commodity, the capitalist, not the artist, is the primary beneficiary.
Lol what? Artists can’t pay rent with exposure
Well then they better talk to the people who hired them not us.
No one in this thread is trying to justify piracy. Everyone in this thread is rightfully saying that the comparison to theft is wrong.
That’s it.
When you purchase a movie or show you’re still not paying digital artists. You’re paying some corporation who cooks their books to make profit disappear so they can keep it all for themselves. Have you not been following the writer/actor strike currently happening?
I live on a small island and the closest cinema or shop where I could buy anything is 3 hours away.
Piracy is more comfortable for me.
Well, my friend: I don’t like to be locked out of other regions.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Trying to locate me? 😁
That cinema would probably be off that small island, on some mainland, thus the 3 hours of travel needed.
“But I want to support those little poor billionares, who’s going to look after their livehood and ethical buisness?”
The more you pay for big brands, whatever product you buy, be it clothes, food, or any form of knowledge, the more you drive up the sales, the more you reinforce the idea that money is a tool only a few chosen are rightful of having, just like the riches and the labour of the many. (Buy from local producers as much as you can)
Ironically enough, pirating makes people more aware of what it consumes, what labor is and mostly to get to support creators directly for what they put out. You can’t steal from corporations, you only get back the unpaid /underpaid labour of many. Quality content and effort should be rewarded, so please support/help your creators in any way you can.
I’m so split on this as a person who has dated (for a long while) a guy who works in wardrobe on film and TV sets. Yes i still pirate, but i also buy the things i love and appreciate. I know those sales go into his pay and unfortunately those billionaires pockets.
This meme is stealing.
Luckily I’m behind 7 proxies
You wouldn’t download a meme.
You wouldn’t shitpost in the policeman’s helmet
The way I see it is that piracy IS stealing. Not of the digital items but of the income that they potentially would have had. But I just don’t give a fuck
The word “potentially” is doing a lot of work there.
In many cases of piracy, the result of not pirating the work would not have been more income for the rights holder, it would have been the person just not acquiring a copy of the work at all.
In that way, taxes can steal income from me that I potentially would’ve had if they didn’t exist, and if I could then spend that income on another service now the taxes stole it from that service
“Potential” revenue is completely bullshit.
I potentially have 20 billions of income but my greedy employer doesn’t pay it to me!
Thats not how shit works.
I’m sorry, but I read your comment and didn’t find it interesting. I’ll have to sue you for the incredible things that I could’ve potentially done in these 10 seconds you stole from me, like buying a winning lottery ticket. /s
Someone: Photographs pages of a book in a book store
OP: “Hello Police? Someone is stealing a book!”
Nicholas Cage heavily breathing about all the people simultaneously stealing the declaration of independence
Brb, stealing some documents…
My evil plans are already underway. MUHAHAHAHA
Jokes on you I just downloaded those pictures and if you want them back you must give me 1 million upvotes
Noooo, you can’t just steal MY Declaration of Lemmy Independence that I
stoledownloaded. Hello, Lemmy Police? This fucking Lemming just stole MY document!Blast! My evil plans are foiled!
You have no idea how apropos this is to an argument I’m current embroiled in.
If no one loses anything they never had in the first place it is not stealing
i disagree. not that i would care anyway
Don’t make me tap the sidebar again…
It’s literally not stealing though :)
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Is this the same way for memes in comments?
I am proud of pirating and I don’t get why people who also pirate would have a problem with that. Like you think it’s wrong and do it anyway, but think people who don’t think it’s wrong are cringe somehow? What’s wrong with standing up for what you believe in?
I’m just here to see where everyone else is placed on the chart.