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I maybe wasn’t clear. I have SABnzbd setup with the provider correctly (got it to download one file I found successfully). What I mean is can I set the indexer websites to only show stuff that’s avaliable from my backbone as I only have one usenet provider on the Omicron backbone.


I’ve seen torrents easily saturate 350 Mbps connections. Speed is actually one of the advantages of bittorrent protocol and has inspired things such as Windows peer to peer update feature.

I’ve actually been having problems with downloads from an indexer (nzbplanet) that don’t download. I wonder if I have something configured wrong. I am not sure how to tell an indexer site what provider and backbone I am on.


People keep saying Usenet has better speed but I am not buying that. I regularly match the speed of my internet connection.

As for avaliability I am not sure. I am aware that there is limited retention time with usenet and that their are multiple “backbones”. How does this effect the avaliability of downloads?


This is also why peer block was invented. To stop people connecting to honey pots.


Yeah they have tried that before and never got it passed or implemented afaik. Honestly the people of my country need to burn half the government down and start again. It’s just sad. Still doing better than the US somehow.


I get what encryption does. I also understand why it doesn’t make torrents safe. That’s why I got irritated when people were trying to claim encryption is why usenet is safer, cause torrents have encryption too. Even if Usenet is safe the reasoning people used is bad.

I think I am the most worried about indexer sites as these are banned or blocked in my country. Weirdly enough the Usenet ones aren’t blocked and I am wondering why. I believe they have some kind of loop hole.


Speed is not the concern with using a VPN. Having to pay for both is the concern.



Usenet and Debrid
I have been doing torrents + VPN for years now and thinking about switching. Is usenet and debrid safe to use without a VPN in the UK? What about other piracy streaming sites? From what I understand it's cheaper to use a VPN than have debrid + usenet + private indexers but I am not sure. I have heard some questionable justifications as to why it's safer such as it being encrypted (torrents can also be encrypted). Are the index sites also safe? I have heard it both ways about this. Including people saying index sites are not encrypted which they normally are.
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I am fairly sure you still need a VPN when using these services. Is there an advantage to this over using torrents and streming piracy sites?


You said the quote above, not me. So which is it? You have more experience than me, or your “someone without piracy experience?”

I maybe didn’t make this clear. You assumed I didn’t have experience (I honestly think you maybe got me mixed up with someone else), and you recommended prowlarr based on that assumption. I have actually actually tried similar systems multiple times over with Radarr, Sonarr, Couchpotato, sickbeard, Jackett, and friends. I never had great luck with any of them and the infrastructure meant to support them like FreeNAS or UnRAID. That’s why I don’t want people recommending them especially to the inexperienced.

I have no idea who you are or what your experience level is, or anyone else who would care to read it later, so I was providing a thorough answer. That’s all. Not everything is a personal jab at you and your psyche.

Yet you keep trying to claim I don’t know what I am doing while never showing anything I have said to be incorrect. Maybe you weren’t meaning to offend but that’s exactly what you have been doing.


You’ve had two people who’ve tried to help you now, because you’re comments are clearly coming from a perspective of a person “without piracy experience” (your words).

My guy I probably have more experience with this than you do. I’ve been doing it for literally years. The only thing I haven’t used is usenet. I might one day but the only advantage I can see is more consistent download speed.

No idea what you’re talking about. I was genuinely trying to provide advice and assistance.

Really? You talk as if I have no understanding of basic computer terminology like SSL. Like I know these things are encrypted. If you didn’t realize this bittorrent protocol can also be encrypted. Dosen’t stop them seeing who you are connecting to. Since piracy websites are banned you would have a hard time even accessing them without a VPN. Even if they can’t see what you’re downloading specifically they can still see you are accessing a piracy website - imagine trying to use that defense in court.

figure out the problem with using BitTorrent or uTorrent on you’re own

I was refering to the proctol. You can just say bittorrent since it’s a protocol. I don’t use either of these clients specifically I mainly use qBittorrent.

What problem are you even referring to?


I don’t generally like being talked down to.

It’s weird you’re recommending advanced tools like Prowlarr to someone without piracy experience. I have used other programs from the Servarr suite like Sonarr and Radarr with BitTorrent and found them to be generally more trouble than they are worth.


Yeah I don’t live in America. You can technically be jailed for piracy where I live I believe.


The whole reason you get a VPN for piracy is to stop you’re ISP from seeing what you are doing. It also allows you to easily unblock indexer websites. What you are suggesting isn’t a replacement for a VPN in anyway and is likeley to lead to you getting caught and potentially banned by you’re ISP.



Is this what happens when you start a start-up instead of starting a business?


Man you have to try lemon drizzle cake some time. It’s delicious.


If it’s lemon drizzle that would actually be appropriate lmao.



I am using the actual definition. Saying you are x percent wrong isn’t an arguement. You’re just making yourself look bad.


Have you read the definition? It’s a platform reducing the quality of services to increase profit. Nothing about this is to increase profit.


I’ve actually never used Torrentio. I search for things on torrent sites by hand. I will have a look at it though.


They aren’t using any of those programs though. That’s the point of the meme and they have explained this in the comments. Last I used those programs waste far more time than they ever saved, and OP agrees with me on this.


Well said. I have no idea why people seem to think the the whole sonarr, radarr, prowlarr setup saves time. The whole renaming, metadata and thumbnail gathering, etc isn’t saving time for most people as most pirates don’t do any of that manually because they don’t do it at all. This software is useful for people who want collections of pirated content - especially if they serve it to other people. A family or someone who does piracy for a business, or collectors of media are who these suites work best for.

I have often had to manually intervene when using this supposedly “automatic” software. That and the time, trial, and error it takes to set all of it up make it not worth it for me. It gets especially annoying when it renames episodes to the wrong name, making them confusing to identify and taking time to fix manually. That wouldn’t happen if you just didn’t rename anything and saves valuable watching time.


I wasn’t talking about that. I was talking about the second screenshot. Thanks anyway


Ah okay. Maybe I should try that at some point. It’s been years since I used it last.


What management interface is that though and is it part of the OS? What OS are you using anyway?