To any non-js dev taking this too seriously: A good half of the technologies mentioned in this meme are redundant, you only need to learn

how to stay the fuck away from webdev

(in addition to the language).

And before Pidgin was named Pidgin, it was named GAIM, which was short for GTK AIM, which was short for GIMP toolkit AOL IM, which was short for GNU Image Manipulation Program toolkit America Online Instant Messenger, which was short for GNU’s Not Unix Image Manipulation Program toolkit America Online Instant Messenger and it never ends.

It’s literally a third-party service that let’s others control your desktop. Doesn’t matter how FOSS the clients and end servers are, one also needs to trust the intermediate servers. If those running them are caught dishonest about which country they’re located, the trust evaporates. China or not.

I’m saying it runs it because “running” is transitive, but doesn’t boot it because “booting” is not. Similarly to how you can carry your grandkid by carrying your kid who carries their kid (carrying is transitive), but you can’t give birth to your grandkid by giving birth to your kid who’d give birth to their kid (giving birth is not transitive).

Yes, but it doesn’t count, because the SoC from the picture didn’t boot Linux, an emulated machine did.

That’s why the records on doing this silly stuff on progressively smaller microcontroller use the word “run”. It has more transitivity.

“boot” is the next important part. Have you tried reading it in full?

Yeah, just don’t. Allowing to code in anything other than English is a disservice, plain and simple.

Inb4, I’m not being US-centric, Latin ain’t even my native alphabet.

Doesn’t work if it’s invisible.

Homoglyphs? Invisible text? Bidirectional text? Just highlight every line that goes beyond ASCII with yellow warning colors and require to vet it. Maybe make localization data an exception.

It’s not funny because i18n is anything but. Don’t divide people, unite them.

… and beared even less relationship to the full names than now.

Please don’t even think about it.

Making it an excellent choice for a programming beginner --sarcasm

Have you ever wanted to do something from the uncharted area? Encountered bad documentation? This is what it’s supposed to be for, not handholding.

Fruit trees. There’s a ton of them.

It’s really just a bad overused joke.

You’ve said that, not us =P

Also: CSS Also: Java applets Also: Flash

The internet has basically gone moldy overnight.

And in GJS? All other runtimes?

In, say, C, such basic stuff is right there, in the standard.

Javascript isn’t even standardized, some ECMAScript is, so I don’t even know what we’re talking about.

I think you’re misunderstanding what “everything” means (it was “everything needed for a hello world”) and trying to divert the discussion to whatever Web has devolved into, which is an abomination that’s definitely unsuited for learning the ropes of software development.

Let me suggest a simple exercise for you.

1. Print “Hello world!” to stdout in Javascript.
2. Show me the standard that guarantees that everything you’ve used exists and works as intended.

I’ll wait.