I started using Python ~15 years ago. I didn’t go to school for CS.
Compared to using literally anything else at the time as a beginner, pip was the best thing out there that I could finally understand for getting third party code to work with my stuff, without copy paste… on Windows.
When I tried Linux, package managers and make were pretty cool for doing C/C++ work.
Despite all that, us “regular” engineers were consigned to Windows.
We either had to use VBA or a runtime that didn’t need to be installed.
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100% this. I used to work at a company that sold software that mechanical engineers used all day, every day in a certain field. Our app looked like the last pic but with better alignment.
People who are competent want all the things on their screen all at once all the time. They also want keyboard shortcuts.
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Waiting to get a better eyeglass prescription so I can read the tiny text