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Yeah, that's gonna be a hard pass from me thanks, Rachel.
Zero interest in having a conversation with #Meta "off the record" or otherwise.
Sharing this purely to be as transparent as possible with our members.
The exchange is about Meta’s upcoming ActivityPub-enabled network Threads. Meta is calling for a meeting, his response is priceless!
@smokinjoe An interesting reaction to react is Svelte: https://svelte.dev/. Instead of sending an entire application to the browser and making the poor client run all of it, do a crap ton of compute and calculation at build time. Send minimal code and computation to the browser. Totally different paradigm.
The reactivity of Svelte leaves a lot to be desired. The only difference between a computed property and a mutable property is let x = and $: x =, both of which are declared in the same top-level scope and doesn’t provide much to distinguish them. The lack of reactivity on arrays and objects is a major foot-gun by default. The number of places they say “this looks weird, but don’t worry it’ll soon become second nature” in the docs shows that they acknowledge it’s bad design to create code that is misleading or goes against the grain/standard for what behavior developers should expect (makes it confusing to work with and then use anything else, or vice versa).
The #await template directive is interesting; I’m not sure I agree it should be handled in the template instead of the script but if combined it would remove some boilerplate loading = true/false and error = 'message' variables from script scope.
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@smokinjoe An interesting reaction to react is Svelte: https://svelte.dev/. Instead of sending an entire application to the browser and making the poor client run all of it, do a crap ton of compute and calculation at build time. Send minimal code and computation to the browser. Totally different paradigm.
The reactivity of Svelte leaves a lot to be desired. The only difference between a computed property and a mutable property is
let x =and$: x =, both of which are declared in the same top-level scope and doesn’t provide much to distinguish them. The lack of reactivity on arrays and objects is a major foot-gun by default. The number of places they say “this looks weird, but don’t worry it’ll soon become second nature” in the docs shows that they acknowledge it’s bad design to create code that is misleading or goes against the grain/standard for what behavior developers should expect (makes it confusing to work with and then use anything else, or vice versa).The
#awaittemplate directive is interesting; I’m not sure I agree it should be handled in the template instead of the script but if combined it would remove some boilerplateloading = true/falseanderror = 'message'variables from script scope.