It’s been more than a week since MPP Sarah Jama was booted from the Ontario NDP caucus and censured by the Ontario government for daring to name Israel as an Apartheid state. It’s been more than a week since CUPE Ontario President Fred Hahn agreed to
B) I don’t actually think it’s unreasonable to think that a headline should clearly indicate the subject of the article - why have headlines otherwise?
Edit: it was a genuine follow-up question to a statement that I feel could have been interpreted in a couple of ways, and his answer did give some precisions on his position, which is why I wanted to ask, rather than assume. No idea why refusing to judge hastily warrants downvotes lol
so in your opinion when charlie hebdo shooting has happened the artists and writers have maintained their freedom of expression well into their deaths? after all they were free to make any kind of comic and they didnt receive any government backlash.
Yeah, actually. They did. Consequences don’t always come from those in the right. Sometimes they come from fanatics and deviants. Consequences and justice are not synonyms.
You can provide protections from certain unsavory consequences, but those protections will never be perfect. Sometimes terrible things happen to people for expressing themselves. That doesn’t mean they didn’t have the inalienable right to express themselves in the first place.
You seem to be conflating two different issues. You may want to consider just how much mixing of philosophies you’ve been doing. It’s probably led to a lot of frustration and anger in your life.
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We don’t. This isn’t the U.S. with their freedom of speech, where you can say literally anything. We have something called freedom of expression, which does not cover hate speech, and a few other things.
The article is not about free speech absolutism. It is about journalism. Hate speech has nothing to do with it.
Perhaps the headline should have reflected the actual topic more accurately.
Take it up with Nora.
Or maybe people should’ve read the article instead of commenting based on the title
A) Welcome to the internet.
B) I don’t actually think it’s unreasonable to think that a headline should clearly indicate the subject of the article - why have headlines otherwise?
A) Take the L and don’t do it again.
B) Welcome to the internet.
I just want the word “literally” to be misused less. Learn new adverbs, please.
You missed that bus 15 years ago, bud
well you should use your freedom of expression to express your concern for israel’s actions on mainstream tv channels
“You” being who?
Edit: it was a genuine follow-up question to a statement that I feel could have been interpreted in a couple of ways, and his answer did give some precisions on his position, which is why I wanted to ask, rather than assume. No idea why refusing to judge hastily warrants downvotes lol
the article opens with stories of people losing their positions over comments on gaza conflict
Freedom of expression doesn’t mean free from consequences.
It only means you can’t be arrested for what you say.
so in your opinion when charlie hebdo shooting has happened the artists and writers have maintained their freedom of expression well into their deaths? after all they were free to make any kind of comic and they didnt receive any government backlash.
Yeah, actually. They did. Consequences don’t always come from those in the right. Sometimes they come from fanatics and deviants. Consequences and justice are not synonyms.
You can provide protections from certain unsavory consequences, but those protections will never be perfect. Sometimes terrible things happen to people for expressing themselves. That doesn’t mean they didn’t have the inalienable right to express themselves in the first place.
well thank god they werent fined i guess
You seem to be conflating two different issues. You may want to consider just how much mixing of philosophies you’ve been doing. It’s probably led to a lot of frustration and anger in your life.
The US doesn’t have freedom of speech either… Source: American.
I mean, you do have it codified in your Constitution as its very first amendment. Now, how much is it really protected, in practice…