I love when kids whine about how bad things are in Camada but when asked to point to a better example they can’t.
Hell, I live in Vancouver and our transit system is world class. Lived as an adult for 20 years here, never needed one. (Finally got one so I could go skiing more easily but even so, I haven’t filled up the table since a road trip in August because transit is so damned convenient.)
When I was there, Vancouver had a transit system that was more or less on par with large cities I saw later like Tokyo or Bangkok. From what I’ve heard, much of Europe has usable and non-stigmatized transit, as well as being quite walkable. I can’t say the same for other parts of Canada I’ve been or heard about.
And almost all of the rest of the province is far too spread out for a comparable transit system.
Victoria for its population has a pretty solid one. But if you think about how large even a city like Kelowna is, public transit simply isn’t an effective mechanism. It’s one of the tradeoffs involved in the cheaper, more room/space rural living.
Have you EVER traveled anywhere overseas? A simple comparison… Amsterdam vs Vancouver (I’ve lived in both cities). Vancouver transit is absolutely terrible in comparison, and the Dutch have to deal with swampy ground and water everywhere. Amsterdam has trams, buses, trains (local and long distance), and glorious cycle paths EVERYWHERE. The city is pedestrian friendly too… Vancouver is just a generic typical north American city built for cars and little else.
Oh Amsterdam’s cycling infrastructure is second to none. But comparing Amsterdam’s transit system to Vancouver’s is pretty unfair; Amsterdam has a population density of almost 5,000 people per square km compared to the GVRD’s pop density of just over 900/square km. It’s sort of like comparing Vancouver’s public transit to Hope’s.
I am perhaps biased having lived in Ireland where, the transit was abysmal. In my time in Berlin, transit was effective but I wouldn’t put it above Vancouver’s. Spain/Italy was ridiculous (not in a great way.) Though, all of them (except Ireland) were great at cross country connections for sure.
OK, Hamburg… Munich… Utrecht… Maastricht… Antwerp… Vienna… Paris… pick a city. Hell, even San Francisco has better transit in the majority of the Bay Area than Vancouver. Basically, what I wanted to point out is Vancouver is NOT world-class.
You don’t need trams everywhere, like Amsterdam. Something as basic as proper cycle paths so people don’t have to cycle in traffic would be nice.
I get tired of everyone excusing Canada’s stupidity because of population density. We have to pay among the highest cellular rates in the world because population density. How about it’s due to corruption and lame excuses. We have shitty transit because population density. We pay insane internet rates because population density… on and on. They are excuses. Canad can do better. We (collectively) choose not to.
I get tired of everyone excusing Canada’s stupidity because of population density.
This is like me saying “I’m sick of not playing for the Canucks just because I can’t really skate backwards, don’t have a shot and have trouble receiving passes.”
Sorry but we live in the second largest country in the world and one of the least densely populated.
Either the transit will be more expensive (thus defeating the accessible to all goal) be worse or massively subsidized with taxes. Same with cell /internet. Unless you have a magic wand, that’s just part of the deal.
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Which country would you rather be in that didn’t have a massive increase in housing prices?
One with a functional transit system.
I love when kids whine about how bad things are in Camada but when asked to point to a better example they can’t.
Hell, I live in Vancouver and our transit system is world class. Lived as an adult for 20 years here, never needed one. (Finally got one so I could go skiing more easily but even so, I haven’t filled up the table since a road trip in August because transit is so damned convenient.)
When I was there, Vancouver had a transit system that was more or less on par with large cities I saw later like Tokyo or Bangkok. From what I’ve heard, much of Europe has usable and non-stigmatized transit, as well as being quite walkable. I can’t say the same for other parts of Canada I’ve been or heard about.
Haven’t been to Tokyo but that seems like a wild high bar, I’d be pretty proud!
Toronto also has a really good system (partially because it was so well integrated into city planning back in the day.)
Despite the rural/conservative bent in Calgary, they still had a decent system from my limited time there.
I don’t live in Vancouver. Every part of the province that isn’t the GVRD has an abysmal transit system.
And almost all of the rest of the province is far too spread out for a comparable transit system.
Victoria for its population has a pretty solid one. But if you think about how large even a city like Kelowna is, public transit simply isn’t an effective mechanism. It’s one of the tradeoffs involved in the cheaper, more room/space rural living.
Have you EVER traveled anywhere overseas? A simple comparison… Amsterdam vs Vancouver (I’ve lived in both cities). Vancouver transit is absolutely terrible in comparison, and the Dutch have to deal with swampy ground and water everywhere. Amsterdam has trams, buses, trains (local and long distance), and glorious cycle paths EVERYWHERE. The city is pedestrian friendly too… Vancouver is just a generic typical north American city built for cars and little else.
Oh Amsterdam’s cycling infrastructure is second to none. But comparing Amsterdam’s transit system to Vancouver’s is pretty unfair; Amsterdam has a population density of almost 5,000 people per square km compared to the GVRD’s pop density of just over 900/square km. It’s sort of like comparing Vancouver’s public transit to Hope’s.
I am perhaps biased having lived in Ireland where, the transit was abysmal. In my time in Berlin, transit was effective but I wouldn’t put it above Vancouver’s. Spain/Italy was ridiculous (not in a great way.) Though, all of them (except Ireland) were great at cross country connections for sure.
OK, Hamburg… Munich… Utrecht… Maastricht… Antwerp… Vienna… Paris… pick a city. Hell, even San Francisco has better transit in the majority of the Bay Area than Vancouver. Basically, what I wanted to point out is Vancouver is NOT world-class.
You don’t need trams everywhere, like Amsterdam. Something as basic as proper cycle paths so people don’t have to cycle in traffic would be nice.
I get tired of everyone excusing Canada’s stupidity because of population density. We have to pay among the highest cellular rates in the world because population density. How about it’s due to corruption and lame excuses. We have shitty transit because population density. We pay insane internet rates because population density… on and on. They are excuses. Canad can do better. We (collectively) choose not to.
This is like me saying “I’m sick of not playing for the Canucks just because I can’t really skate backwards, don’t have a shot and have trouble receiving passes.”
Sorry but we live in the second largest country in the world and one of the least densely populated.
Either the transit will be more expensive (thus defeating the accessible to all goal) be worse or massively subsidized with taxes. Same with cell /internet. Unless you have a magic wand, that’s just part of the deal.
I don’t think you’ll find that
Plenty of countries have functional transit systems. Why do you say that as if they don’t exist? Lol
EDIT: Oops, I missed the comment chain…lmao
There’s 2 parts to it
Functional + didn’t see an increase in home prices
Finding both would be difficult
Sorry, I missed which comment you replied to. My mistake!
Judging by your upvotes and my downvotes that is pretty common