Greedy old news companies thinking they should be paid every time google displays a link or one of us posts to social media… THe way the bill is structured links to news sites posted HERE on lemmy.ca may make lemmy.ca responsible for paying for them to the old news companies.
F*ck these bozos who dont understand how much this is going to screw canadian news sites. They just see google gets owned and support whatever tf it is like sheep. Awful law
I am amazed at how people don’t understand that vague law that takes out there “Current enemy” could be used against them down the road… THERE IS NO SUPPORT OF GOOGLE or facebook… it is a bad law that could be turned around to start playing whack mole with lemmy instances in the future, especially those run by a Canadian entity or on canadian hosting.
That’s a whole lot of assumptions you’re making about me there, all because I said there are problems with a law. I guess Lemmy isn’t all that different from reddit after all.
Just because we want thoughtful regulation does not mean we support Meta and Alphabet. Why is this fascinating or surprising? Do you think the EFF is a huge fan of link taxes or Facebook?
They have had years to change and thoughtfully regulate themselves and refused. These fascist billionaire companies profit by sowing chaos in our democracy and pushing propaganda into our population without even paying taxes. To hell with Meta and Alphabet.
It did no such thing. The commenter doesn’t even seem to be aware that “Lemmy” isn’t a place or organization.
Lemmy is 1000 independent websites, run by 1000 different independent individuals. And no single website running Lemmy will be in a position to wield influence over news media organizations.
Section 6 of the bill reads as follows: "This Act applies in respect of a digital news intermediary if, having regard to the following factors, there is a significant bargaining power imbalance between its operator and news businesses:
(a) the size of the intermediary or the operator;
(b) whether the market for the intermediary gives the operator a strategic advantage over news businesses; and
(c) whether the intermediary occupies a prominent market position."
I don’t think anyone could reasonably define lemmy.ca as a powerful news intermediary.
Are you presuming that it never becomes popular? All three aspects vaguely describe the intermediary as being more popular than the news operator. If lemmy takes off and becomes the next Reddit and people go to it to catch up on the latest news it would be a factor.
Just because it does not fit today does not mean it isn’t a bad law. It would essentially apply to ANY site that becomes popular and links to a canadian news outlet.
I didn’t say anything about popularity, but no, I don’t think Lemmy will become popular at the scale the act envisions. Most people will continue to use corporate services for the foreseeable future.
There’s a difference between popular and powerful though, and I hope the courts would be capable of making that distinction. I also see a couple of references to the “market” in the act, which I think should exclude Lemmy as long as it’s not-for-profit.
“There’s a difference between popular and powerful though” Not legally no the terms in this bill are very poorly defined. Really any “popular” / “large” website that links to Canadian news could be targeted with the open wording of the bill.
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Greedy old news companies thinking they should be paid every time google displays a link or one of us posts to social media… THe way the bill is structured links to news sites posted HERE on lemmy.ca may make lemmy.ca responsible for paying for them to the old news companies.
It’s a bad law.
F*ck these bozos who dont understand how much this is going to screw canadian news sites. They just see google gets owned and support whatever tf it is like sheep. Awful law
I am amazed at how people don’t understand that vague law that takes out there “Current enemy” could be used against them down the road… THERE IS NO SUPPORT OF GOOGLE or facebook… it is a bad law that could be turned around to start playing whack mole with lemmy instances in the future, especially those run by a Canadian entity or on canadian hosting.
You’re lying.
Care to elaborate?
Answered here: https://lemmy.sdf.org/comment/485311
And the comment responding to it did a wonderful job of rebutting your point, so I won’t repeat it.
It didn’t actually. It is fascinating to find so many pro-authoritarian pro-billionaire tech fascist accounts on Lemmy.
That’s a whole lot of assumptions you’re making about me there, all because I said there are problems with a law. I guess Lemmy isn’t all that different from reddit after all.
Just because we want thoughtful regulation does not mean we support Meta and Alphabet. Why is this fascinating or surprising? Do you think the EFF is a huge fan of link taxes or Facebook?
They have had years to change and thoughtfully regulate themselves and refused. These fascist billionaire companies profit by sowing chaos in our democracy and pushing propaganda into our population without even paying taxes. To hell with Meta and Alphabet.
It did no such thing. The commenter doesn’t even seem to be aware that “Lemmy” isn’t a place or organization.
Lemmy is 1000 independent websites, run by 1000 different independent individuals. And no single website running Lemmy will be in a position to wield influence over news media organizations.
Section 6 of the bill reads as follows: "This Act applies in respect of a digital news intermediary if, having regard to the following factors, there is a significant bargaining power imbalance between its operator and news businesses:
I don’t think anyone could reasonably define lemmy.ca as a powerful news intermediary.
Are you presuming that it never becomes popular? All three aspects vaguely describe the intermediary as being more popular than the news operator. If lemmy takes off and becomes the next Reddit and people go to it to catch up on the latest news it would be a factor.
Just because it does not fit today does not mean it isn’t a bad law. It would essentially apply to ANY site that becomes popular and links to a canadian news outlet.
I didn’t say anything about popularity, but no, I don’t think Lemmy will become popular at the scale the act envisions. Most people will continue to use corporate services for the foreseeable future.
There’s a difference between popular and powerful though, and I hope the courts would be capable of making that distinction. I also see a couple of references to the “market” in the act, which I think should exclude Lemmy as long as it’s not-for-profit.
“There’s a difference between popular and powerful though” Not legally no the terms in this bill are very poorly defined. Really any “popular” / “large” website that links to Canadian news could be targeted with the open wording of the bill.
What strategic advantage does Lemmy have? It’s open source ffs