I’ve been using Express and had a great experience so far, but I may want to try a Proton subscription for cloud space and more emails. It also comes with a VPN service but I’m a little leary on trying something new. Any thoughts on Proton VPN?
Don’t use shady vpn’s like express, nord vpn. etc. they’re all shit. At the moment I can only reccomend: Mullvad, Proton and IVPN. I would like to disclose that I am a proton subscriber but also a privacy nut that has done a lot of research about this.
on the surface they do a lot right. warrant canary, no logs, solid infrastructure, profitable.
for me, i really don’t like the weird ways that they market. super misleading to imply that they make a person “anonymous” and/or greatly improve your privacy beyond you sending them your information instead of your isp.
i also really dont like the lack of transparency, particularly with closed-source clients.
i also really don’t like the number of controversies that nord has been in, even insofar as getting hacked. i don’t want my vpn provider to have any, let alone quite a few, of these controversies.
in terms of the model, proton is transitioning to a non-profit which reinforces why they are so well-regarded by the community. long history of doing right by consumers, where it matters most.
I meant at a lot of research abut forgot “lot”. I didn’t mean to imply to have written a research paper. but https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ is a good place to start.
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Don’t use shady vpn’s like express, nord vpn. etc. they’re all shit. At the moment I can only reccomend: Mullvad, Proton and IVPN. I would like to disclose that I am a proton subscriber but also a privacy nut that has done a lot of research about this.
Curious: what makes Nord shady? Their model seemed similar to Proton when I was researching the two. What’d I miss?
I’ll just leave this here: https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/nordvpn-confirms-its-no-logs-claims-for-the-fourth-time-with-security-audit
The biggest thing that did it for me was who runs Nord? Not business entities but the people.
Protons leadership is out in the open with their names (fwiw their CEO is even on the Higgs paper, lol), but Nord has a very intransparent structure.
on the surface they do a lot right. warrant canary, no logs, solid infrastructure, profitable.
for me, i really don’t like the weird ways that they market. super misleading to imply that they make a person “anonymous” and/or greatly improve your privacy beyond you sending them your information instead of your isp. i also really dont like the lack of transparency, particularly with closed-source clients. i also really don’t like the number of controversies that nord has been in, even insofar as getting hacked. i don’t want my vpn provider to have any, let alone quite a few, of these controversies.
in terms of the model, proton is transitioning to a non-profit which reinforces why they are so well-regarded by the community. long history of doing right by consumers, where it matters most.
Also a subscriber, also pleased.
More importantly, as an aspiring privacy nut, can you share that research with me?
I meant at a lot of research abut forgot “lot”. I didn’t mean to imply to have written a research paper. but https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ is a good place to start.